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General Discussion / Re: Possible Re Joining
« Last post by Dynadave on March 15, 2026, 07:02:31 pm »
No one size fits all is an old true saying. We recently sold a very nice Roadtrek 210 that I really liked for several reasons but found it a bit too small for staying put in a campground for a few days. We bought a Phoenix Cruiser 2552 in October but have yet to take a trip, however we are not concerned because we owned a 3100 Phoenix about 10 years ago and it was great. The 2552 is the same basic layout except about 3’ shorter. We started downsizing and in retrospect probably should have stayed with the 3100 and saved a lot of $$. During the downsizing we also owned a Phoenix 2350 on the Sprinter chassis for one year, nice rig well built and drove good, but the corner bed didn’t work for us. I would advise you to do some reasearch on the Sprinter’s from the 2011 thru 2016 era so you are aware of the potential for DEF , ABS sensors, service availability and $$$,and other less common issues. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t buy one, they are a great highway vehicle, but there are things that you should be aware of before you take the plunge. I have a lot of respect for Phoenix Cruisers and Coachhouse, they are two of the best built rvs. Good luck in your search.
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General Discussion / Re: Possible Re Joining
« Last post by Bangorbob on March 15, 2026, 05:22:38 pm »
Thanks to all.  Haven't got it yet.  It's a matter of time.  But 99% sure we will be getting it. 
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General Discussion / Re: Possible Re Joining
« Last post by jimmer on March 15, 2026, 03:14:32 pm »
Good for you Bangorbob.    Would be glad to have you and your "feedback in the Forum" back !
Jimmer
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General Discussion / Re: Possible Re Joining
« Last post by CalCruiser on March 15, 2026, 02:32:11 pm »
There’s a very low mileage 2016 2351 listed in the for sale by owner section of this forum.  Same wheelbase as the 2350 Sprinter.
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General Discussion / Re: Possible Re Joining
« Last post by Ron Dittmer on March 14, 2026, 11:23:48 pm »
We think alike.

Back in the day when shopping for a motorhome to replace THIS ONE that we owned for 24 years, we wanted everything the big class-C's had, but in the smallest available package.  Model 2350 offered all this, much of what we initially sought, much that we appreciated over time.
- a main floor double bed for two adults
- a dinette that can be kept a dinette all the time
- an easy chair to kick back and relax on
- a real sink, stove, and microwave/convection to do real cooking
- a decent size fridge
- a dry bath
- decent heat, a/c, insulation, thermal windows, etc.
- decent fresh and waste water capacities
- decent interior & exterior storage, and also elbow room
- decent functional services like two house batteries, whole house inverter, etc.
- decent construction
- decent 2007 E350 chassis, power train, towing capacity, etc. (averages over 11 mpg when not towing)
- low profile and low center of gravity

Model 2350 was the silver bullet which fits inside our limitedly sized garage.  Yes, it is longer than the longest pickup truck (crew cab with 8 foot bed) but by only 18".

I hope you find what you are looking for.
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General Discussion / Possible Re Joining
« Last post by Bangorbob on March 14, 2026, 04:08:50 pm »
We sold our 2350 a few years ago and found out that for what we do it was the best layout for us.  Currently have a Roadtrek 210.  We may be making a deal on a 2013 2350 sprinter in the next couple weeks. 
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Very rare hard to find model. This is the 3100. One of their largest most roomy floor plans. Ford E450 chassis.

If you don't know the quality of Phoenix, do some research. These are custom built with high quality materials. Not the mass produced garbage that makes up this industry. Full fiberglass bodies and full body paint.

Upgraded to lithium ion batteries last year. Battle born batteries, the best you can buy. Also has full solar as well as an Onan generator. Between the solar, generator and the lithium batteries, you can dry camp indefinitely without worrying about Power. Cut off switch built in for storage purposes.

Top of the line Alpine stereo with 11 inch touch screen installed last year. Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. Back up camera as well.

One of the only newer ones you can find with a ladder. They no longer include

This motorhome cannot be told from new. It has always been stored inside. No sun damage or exposure. It is pristine inside and out.

Tons of upgrades :
Full body paint
50 amp service
Two AC Units (easily cools coach even in high temps/humidity)
Cherry cabinets
Engineered wood floor, not cheap vinal tiles.
Two solar panels, 310 total watts
Onan generator
Two brand new Battleborn, lithium ion battery upgrade
Full gray leather sofa with dual powered recliners and ottoman
Leather dinette with cherry wood table
Leather captains seat seats in cab (passenger side swivels to face coach interior w/fold out desktop)
Two TV's/Living room and bedroom
Twin beds with one side that you hit a switch and it motors out into a full size
All vents covered with Max air covers so they can be open in rain
Full LED lighting
2 fantastic fans
Heated tanks
Power awning with LED lights
Fully automated computer leveling jacks
Automatic power entry step
Van windows tinted with ceramic sun block tinting
Paint protection film on all forward facing surfaces of van and coach (no rock chips)

You will not find a nicer Phoenix anywhere!

Located in Bristol TN, not Athens. FB will not let me correct location.

Build one new and this model is $220K plus with these options. When dealers have them with this mileage, they sell them for $125k plus.

Price: 109,500

email: Carguy0845@gmail.com
phone: (423) 279-8350
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Very rare hard to find model. This is the 3100. One of their largest most roomy floor plans. Ford E450 chassis.

If you don't know the quality of Phoenix, do some research. These are custom built with high quality materials. Not the mass produced garbage that makes up this industry. Full fiberglass bodies and full body paint.

Upgraded to lithium ion batteries last year. Battle born batteries, the best you can buy. Also has full solar as well as an Onan generator. Between the solar, generator and the lithium batteries, you can dry camp indefinitely without worrying about Power. Cut off switch built in for storage purposes.

Top of the line Alpine stereo with 11 inch touch screen installed last year. Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. Back up camera as well.

One of the only newer ones you can find with a ladder. They no longer include

This motorhome cannot be told from new. It has always been stored inside. No sun damage or exposure. It is pristine inside and out.

Tons of upgrades :
Full body paint
50 amp service
Two AC Units (easily cools coach even in high temps/humidity)
Cherry cabinets
Engineered wood floor, not cheap vinal tiles.
Two solar panels, 310 total watts
Onan generator
Two brand new Battleborn, lithium ion battery upgrade
Full gray leather sofa with dual powered recliners and ottoman
Leather dinette with cherry wood table
Leather captains seat seats in cab (passenger side swivels to face coach interior w/fold out desktop)
Two TV's/Living room and bedroom
Twin beds with one side that you hit a switch and it motors out into a full size
All vents covered with Max air covers so they can be open in rain
Full LED lighting
2 fantastic fans
Heated tanks
Power awning with LED lights
Fully automated computer leveling jacks
Automatic power entry step
Van windows tinted with ceramic sun block tinting
Paint protection film on all forward facing surfaces of van and coach (no rock chips)

You will not find a nicer Phoenix anywhere!

Located in Bristol TN, not Athens. FB will not let me correct location.

Build one new and this model is $220K plus with these options. When dealers have them with this mileage, they sell them for $125k plus.

email: Carguy0845@gmail.com
phone: (423) 279-8350
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General Discussion / Re: Should I not add weight to slide-out?
« Last post by Ron Dittmer on March 10, 2026, 04:26:39 pm »
I agree with Larry 100%.

I have no slide-outs so keep that in-mind..... but.....

It makes sense to me, to remove the dinette cushions and the base storage drawers, and leave the dinette structure alone.  Build your kitty world around it, utilizing the dinette structure for support and anchoring.

I can't imagine whatever you come up with, would stress the slide-out mechanism.  Unlike the couch, the dinette structure is feather-light so removing it won't save you much weight.  Between the dinette structure and your kitty world together, it would likely be about the weight of a recliner/sleeper couch system.  Just be selective on your building materials.  Use 3/8" plywood instead of 3/4" plywood.... that kind of thinking.  Particle board is tempting to use because it costs less, but it is very heavy.

Keeping the dinette structure would also make resale much easier.  Just clean up everything, plug your kitty world mounting holes, reinstall the drawers and cushions, and you are ready to resell.
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General Discussion / Re: Should I not add weight to slide-out?
« Last post by LRUCH on March 10, 2026, 02:24:06 pm »
Hi Teresa,


I saw your question when you initially posted it, but I thought I would let someone with the same brand of slide respond. My slides are LiftCo.


1st thought that comes to mind is find the model number on the slide and search for it on the Lippert web pages to see if they publish a weight limit. I bet Phoenix knows it as well.. They can probably tell you how heavy the slides are fitted out with furniture, cabinets, etc when installed.


I know the forum was just upgraded and was unavailable off and on,,, so maybe someone else will contribute their thoughts here as well when they come back in force.   Here's my brain dump on this:


I would think your feline playground would be ok within reason as long as you don't add a large amount of weight. Here's why... You're removing tables and  cushions, you instantly can add that same weight in playground equipment. Also, consider that some floorplans (I don't know yours, so I'll be generic here) have passenger seating with 2 sets of seat belts in the dinette or in the recliners.  Each out those must be rated for a full size adult... Probably 250 to 300lbs each.   Those same adults would be in those seats when the slide is IN and the RV in motion, or When OUT and the RV is parked.  Some floorplans have a fridge loaded with food so I know the weight limits can be higher.


However, that is not a free pass to instantly add 500 lbs of playground. LOL... Extra weight is stress on the slide and more mass for you to push down the road which impacts your mileage and the weight distribution of the RV.    Also keep in mind the slide is strongest when IN for 2 reasons,,,, the outer shell is pressed against the outside wall of the RV and the weight is evenly distributed on the wall connections and the inside rollers. It is second strongest OUT because the inner shell of the slide is pressed against the RV inner wall. However the weight is mostly on the RV wall and only a small amount in the inner rollers. It basically shifts the weight out and why you never want to move the RV with a slide OUT.


It is least strong when part way IN or OUT since it does not have that wall contact for stability... It's basically floating and can twist or bind up. A huge reason to NOT move the RV.


If I was in your shoes I would target keeping it under 100 lbs as that should be plenty for a playground and allow for a litter box, some luggage or food/beverages to be stored in the same area while traveling.. and leave room for some humans to play with the cats in the playground. I would also attach the playground firmly to the frames of the dinette seating as they are designed for passengers in motion and they are attached to the floor of the slide.  This avoids putting holes in the slide itself because there are restrictions where things can be mounted in the slide shell. The walls are likely NOT designed for mounting heavy objects.  (which is probably why the cabinets are small).


I know 100lbs is well under 500...but if I was in your shoes that would be my goal. I'd hope 100lbs is plenty, albeit I've never built a catscape... at least not yet!


I would love to see photos when done and hear how much weight it added up to.


Hope this was helpful,
Larry
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