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General Discussion / Re: RV Travel: RV inspector recommends the best older motorhome brands

« Last post by flei on June 23, 2025, 09:39:15 am »

I agree about the high quality of Phoenix Cruisers! At least this is very true of our 18 year old 2007 2350 which now has 105,000 miles on it. Our longest trouble-free trip was 18,000 miles. We have driven it over some of the roughest paved and dirt roads in North America (with even the occasional off-road excursion) and have never had any failures.

There have been ZERO problems with the chassis, drive train, or cabin structure (interior and exterior). Other than the macerator system (which was not working when we bought it in 2020) all the appliances, systems etc. are still working (knock on wood!). Even the slide-out has been trouble free (I've probably jinxed it now!). The Onan generator is the only thing that is quite unreliable (note: this is of course NOT built by PC but by Cummins) (we do not care because we NEVER use a generator anyway thus I have not spent the time to deal with its fueling problems). Cosmetically the exterior does look like hell because the clear coat failed years ago.

Importantly I will note that both prior owners were very mechanically adept and did an excellent job maintaining it which I also try my best to do. IMO owning a motorhome is NOT for those not knowledgeable, interested or able to put in a good amount of time and money to keep this truck/house-thing in good shape!       

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General Discussion / The best older motorhome brands

« Last post by Taildragger on June 21, 2025, 11:51:06 am »

Very interesting summary of reasons to support Phoenix Cruiser.  In the world of RVs, it’s important to remember that longevity is influenced by a multitude of factors. First off, the materials used, and construction technique play a significant role. RVs made from high-quality materials like fiberglass tend to withstand the elements much better than those constructed from lower-grade materials.
Our PC currently has accumulated 107,000 miles and just completed a roundtrip of over 5,000 miles.  I am happy to report it is holding together. 

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Phoenix Cruisers for Sale by Owner / Re: A 2012 Phoenix Cruiser 2552 - Ford 450 Chassis, 54,000 miles - $38,900

« Last post by jim.godfrey on June 20, 2025, 07:48:10 pm »

John: Good luck on the sale and thanks for all the knowledge you have shared here.
Sorry to hear about your wife's passing.

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General Discussion / Re: PC Super C Coming

« Last post by LRUCH on June 20, 2025, 12:44:56 am »

Agreed.. Many thanks for sharing. Did you notice that the F cab was not a cut away and it had a bench seat?  I would think the super C cab would be open to the coach,,, so now I'm wondering who cuts it open? And when?  Seems like it would cause extra cost to get a bench seat for an F chassis and then throw away so much.


My 2 cents here,,, if I were to upgrade to Super C, I would do it for the hauling capacity and get a toy hauling version that had a garage big enough to CARRY a small electric car.  I don't want to tow a vehicle and it would be nice to have the freedom of a car to go sightseeing without breaking camp. With that said... I don't think an F series chassis is ENOUGH of an improvement to enable a toy hauler. I hope I'm proven wrong.


Larry

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General Discussion / Re: PC Super C Coming

« Last post by Sarz272000 on June 19, 2025, 05:15:42 pm »

Thanks for sharing that video.  Tina said she would send me an updated “spec” sheet for the Super C.  Prototype is rear bath and Murphy bed.  Should be interesting. 

Ron S

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General Discussion / Re: PC Super C Coming

« Last post by CalCruiser on June 19, 2025, 04:29:04 pm »

Old PC video showing an F600  chassis with LS. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dSyjylUT0Nc

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General Discussion / Re: PC Super C Coming

« Last post by Ron Dittmer on June 18, 2025, 09:38:43 am »

After PC went from factory direct to dealer sales and basically doubled the price for the same unit I lost all interest in ordering new.

One of my biggest disappointments with Phoenix was changing from factory-direct to 3rd party sales, i.e. dealerships.  Like you say, prices went way up, nearly doubled since the hand-off from Kermit Fisher.  It also made customizing extremely costly & painful.

I could never afford a new PC today, nor would I want one unless it did not have a slideout (customized).  Back in the day, it was so easy to reach out to people one-on-one and encourage them to connect with the factory.  I did that often, most especially during the great recession to help bolster PC sales to help them survive through it.  It was easy back then because PCs like our special order unit was 25% more than a base model Four Winds 21QB.  Now it is nearly 100% more.

I still promote PCs, but I never talk "value", only "construction" and "quality."  I hope they have the same construction practices, still plumb and wire PCs today as they did in that 2007/2008 presentation.  It would be nice to take another factory tour, though I am not sure how I would be received being that I have no plan to buy a new PC.  I would be taking mental notes of changes, basically comparing their current practices from what I remember them to be back in the day.

One change Phoenix made in recent years, I always thought was a discarded opportunity.  When redesigning the rear wall unit, Phoenix had an opportunity to redesign the spare tire compartment to make it mulit-purpose.  It could have had a rectangular hinged cover to accommodate a spare tire for those who want one, or remove the inner spare tire mounting feature and store zero gravity chairs and of the kind, inside it.  They instead changed it to what it is today with no hope for a spare tire for people who want one, nor items like bulky zero gravity chairs.  It would have been cool for Phoenix to include a pair of zero gravity chairs with "Phoenix Cruiser" embroidered in the headrests.  That would have "caught attention" in RV parks and camp grounds.

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General Discussion / Re: Fabric on the slide out ceiling

« Last post by Amsoilman on June 17, 2025, 06:55:59 pm »

That sounds like a pretty good idea with the tube, I’ve never tried it before. I do have some 3M 77 adhesive so I think I’ll try that this weekend. Thanks for the tip.

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General Discussion / Re: PC Super C Coming

« Last post by Sarz272000 on June 17, 2025, 04:50:07 pm »

Thanks Ron
After PC went from factory direct to dealer sales and basically doubled the price for the same unit I lost all interest in ordering new. 

The PC web site has not been updated in years.  None of the new Transit layouts are on the site.  I am not sure how PC is selling units.  I suppose the dealers have the info.  But I like to see info online without the pressure. 

Have a Great Day!

Ron Sarzynski

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General Discussion / Re: Fabric on the slide out ceiling

« Last post by LRUCH on June 17, 2025, 02:51:21 pm »

I've not encountered this issue, but I think I would try a spray adhesive that they use for automobile headliners....


You use the push button and tube approach that is on a can of WD40 instead of the traditional spray button. You poke a hole in the carpet with an ice pick, then insert the tube in the hole and spray glue in a few different directions. Just short taps needed. May need to do this in several places if a lot of it is sagging.  Once glue is in place press a board against the carpet, lightly wedge it in place with a brace and let it dry.


Larry