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New tires recommendations
« on: August 31, 2022, 03:30:31 pm »
I searched the forum but mostly got a lot of stuff from years ago.  On a more contemporary note, what tires are folks using and liking for our PCs in the last year or two.  Our 2350 is a 2013 on a  350 chassis. 

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Re: New tires recommendations
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2022, 11:19:24 pm »
Hi Paul,

I am very pleased with the Michelin Agilis Cross Climate tires that I bought prior to our trip out west last year.  I bought them at Discount Tire.
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/michelin-agilis-crossclimate/p/40677

Road noise, ride, and handling on dry pavement are good on our 2007 E350 chassis PC-2350.  I have not yet had an opportunity to drive in significant rain nor the lightest of snow, of which Michelin claims they are good for.  The tires are rated for snow.  I guess that is why the tire is called "Cross Climate".

If we owned a heavier PC, longer with multiple slide-outs, I would buy this Michelin tire because it handles a lot more weight, roughly 2200 more pounds on the rear axle, specifically to avoid tire-over-load.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Agilis+CrossClimate&partnum=275R6ACC&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
Installing the more capable tire on lighter PCs, makes for a rougher ride, per Volkemon's report with his 2006 2350.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2022, 07:00:49 am by Ron Dittmer »
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Re: New tires recommendations
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2022, 08:35:35 am »
I've seen several reports on the Michelin Agilis CrossCimates--all good.
I'm not yet ready for tires, but these are my current targets when I am.

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Re: New tires recommendations
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2022, 10:54:38 am »
My Michelin lasted well mileage wise but I had issue with dude wall cracking even though I kept them covered.  Something Iíve seen mentioned by others as well. My recent Change I went with Yokohama on rear and cooper on front.  Iíve only run about 4,000 miles so I canít say on longevity but handling and ride has been fine.

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Re: New tires recommendations
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2022, 12:37:00 pm »
I now use Firestone Transforce HT2. They are very quiet and give a very smooth ride but they are considered commercial grade tires. I know they will get more then 50K, because after  trading for a newer PC I transferred these tires over and they are still good after 50K.

The problem I have had with Michelins is that I had 2 sets and never got over 25K. On one set I barely got 21K on a Denali that I hauled a 5th wheel with.

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Re: New tires recommendations
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2022, 01:49:46 am »
I will be replacing my Bridgestone Duravis R500 HDís next year because of age. These are also commercial grade tires with a high wear rating (hard tread compound). The only concern is/has been with the extreme rumble strip-like vibration on ridiculously cracked and crumbling pavement at low speeds. I donít know if thatís due to the hard tread compound or if thatís typical for the E350  chassis, since I bought them before our first trip. Hopefully someone else can add to this? My Bilsteins are nearly new so shocks arenít a factor.

The highway ride is comfortable and quiet, and the handling on twisty mountain roads is excellent  if not sporty thanks to the stiff sidewalls that  donít roll under.
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Re: New tires recommendations
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2022, 05:36:29 am »
Ours are Hercules tires. They do have a hum but we don't really notice it (maybe because our truck is so loud). We had them installed in Bemidji, MN. They were using them on the ambulances and school buses so we know they're solid.
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Re: New tires recommendations
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2022, 09:41:25 pm »
I've seen several reports on the Michelin Agilis CrossCimates--all good.
I'm not yet ready for tires, but these are my current targets when I am.


In 2020 I bought my 2900 and it had 10yo Michelins with 38K miles. The tread was only half gone, but getting old!  I replaced them with the Michelin Agilis CrossClimates,,  and I REALLY LIKE THEM . Very Quiet. Good control on wet pavement or the beach with wet sand.

My only problems with them were
--getting them balanced well. I think it  was actually a problem with new young help who didn't take their time and do it right at install. I went back after my first weekend on them and a rebalance solved that.
--some occasional air loss which can be blamed on disturbing the 10yo valve stem extensions. After replacing the extension the air loss was history.

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Re: New tires recommendations
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2022, 04:36:28 pm »
Thanks for the replies to my original post.   Sounds like I need to go buy some new Michelin Agilis Cross Climates.  I'll do that this week.    It seems incredible to me that the MS2s on it now (which were a result of a Michelin recall) have aged out.  It seems like five years ago, not eight and eight is longer than my normal six year horizon.    Covid just knocked everything off kelter for me by two years, along with caring for a now deceased relative.   We want to get new "tars" and hit the road this fall!!

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Re: New tires recommendations
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2022, 05:13:00 pm »
Michelin recommends that any tires that are 10 years or more from the date of manufacture (DOT), including spare tires, be replaced with new tires as a precaution even if such tires appear serviceable and even if they have not reached the legal wear limit.

I treat my tires twice a year with 303 aerospace protectant and they are 9 years old and have no cracking in side walls. I have 60,000 miles and have never rotated them.
"MICHELINģ tires should be rotated when necessary. If the tires are wearing evenly, there is no need to rotate."
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Re: New tires recommendations
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2022, 08:26:48 am »
Here is a link to the Michelin recommendations and comments that Keelhauler mentioned in his post.

https://www.michelinman.com/auto/auto-tips-and-advice/tire-buying-guide/when-do-i-need-new-tires

I think it is interesting that the manufacturer states a ten year life under certain conditions.   

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Re: New tires recommendations
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2022, 07:47:42 am »
As some of you here know, I stretched our original 2007 PC Michelin LTX tires to 14 years.  They looked like 6 years old when I changed them out.  I just wasn't comfortable going one more year with them.

I don't recommend people doing what I did.  Our situation is unique in that our PC is stored in a climate controlled garage, and our model 2350 without a slide-out is not carrying as much weight as a typical motorhome, hence we run at lower tire pressures than most people.

For the curious.....
Here was the condition of our original 14 year old Michelin tires with manufacturing date codes of December 2006.
You can see little cracks forming near the steel wheel in the area of the date code.


Since I also changed to Alcoa wheels, I sold 4 original tires and steel wheels (all rears) on Craigslist for $400.
The wheels were still like new after 14 years.  The tires still had a lot of good even wear thread.




Shown here are the Alcoa wheels delivered.
Each wheel weighs exactly 20 pounds less than a steel wheel with simulators.


Here they are installed.
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Re: New tires recommendations
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2022, 10:46:55 am »
Ditto on the Cross Climates, very satisfied.

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Re: New tires recommendations
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2022, 10:21:22 pm »

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Agilis+CrossClimate&partnum=275R6ACC&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes


Installing the more capable tire on lighter PCs, makes for a rougher ride, per Volkemon's report with his 2006 2350.


Well, after a few thousand miles on the road I am VERY happy with the tires. Still keep them at 75#, cant say it is a noticeably rough ride. And some of the roads I have been on lately, loaded, it has been tested.  The water shedding properties are AMAZING. Went through a few Florida monsoons now, and the control these tires give me is impressive.

Road noise seemed to lessen as I broke them in. Or I got used to it... But I drive with NO radio or other noisemaker going, so I am attuned to noises from the rig. Old habit from driving the VW Bus... it allows you to hear when parts fall off, making it easier to find them.  roflol  I feel that as an operator of a 'house' rolling down the road at 75MPH, often with my trailer, my attention is to the vehicle and the world around me. PLENTY of entertainment there to keep me occupied.  (exactly) I dont want to be lost in a song when that solar panel on the rig ahead comes for me. That was some awesome video. Close call.
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