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Annoying Squeak
« on: May 06, 2022, 11:22:58 pm »
Unlike a vehicle, squealing politicians are usually trying to divert your attention from the real problem.  Instead of having the listener focus on real issues to reveal how unseemly their behavior might be.  Whereas, with a machine, an annoying squeak usually leads to a problem that can't be ignored.

I found the length of black iron pipe connecting the LP gas tank to the utility cabinet is essentially free floating.  Suspended by the rubber hose exiting the tank and unfettered before entering the utility connection.  Every bump in the road causes the weight of the unsupported pipe to bounce and "squeak".

Not particularly noticeable at highway speed, it is impossible to ignore at city speeds.  Especially, at intersections or other grade variations. 

Pinpointing the problem is easy.  Just crawl under the rig and confirm it. Effortlessly moving the pipe up and down to replicate travel over a bump generates a squeak that is unmistakable.  And, for me, ignoring it eventually becomes impossible.

I put a u-bolt over the black iron pipe and an eyebolt into an existing hole in the adjacent truck frame.  I connected the two to form a pipe brace midway along the route.  Effectively suspending the pipe with a sling and restricting movement. 

I am currently on the road and made the repair in a hardware store parking lot.  About four thousand miles from home, I am grateful to be rid of the annoyance.  I am also curious why the restraint wasn't installed by the factory. 

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Re: Annoying Squeak
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2022, 04:26:34 am »
Good analogy and thanks for the tip.

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Re: Annoying Squeak
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2022, 06:57:01 am »
Taildragger,

I am guessing it's something that was overlooked.   On my 2015 model, I have no looseness.
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Re: Annoying Squeak
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2022, 08:31:54 am »
Same topic, different source.

Many years ago, we had an irritating squeak in the B+ area above the driver.  As the driver, if I opened the left-side glass-panel cabinet door and put my hand on the ledge, and applied some body weight while driving, the squeak went away.

Back home, I called Kermit (the previous owner and founder of Phoenix USA) who had me DO THIS.  I addressed the problem back in 2013 and the irritating squeak has not yet returned today in 2022.

A few years ago, I softened the front suspension DOING THIS which of coarse would help to reduce any such issues, developing or reoccurring.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2022, 08:45:24 am by Ron Dittmer »
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Re: Annoying Squeak
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2022, 01:08:44 pm »
I also have an '07 2100.  I appreciated the "heads up" on the propane tank pipe situation.  I just checked mine and it seems to be secure.  I may still add a hanger of some type to reinforce it.  While under the rig and looking up at the lp tank, I see quite a bit of paint peeling off the lp tank and some rust starting to form.  Can the lp tank be re-primed/painted?

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Re: Annoying Squeak
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2022, 08:07:10 pm »
Can the lp tank be re-primed/painted?
Absolutely!!!  You won't break any LP tank rules.  Actually it is quite the opposite.  Officially, filling a rusted tank breaks the rules.

This is why you see those BBQ grille tanks in the "exchange" cage repainted often.
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Re: Annoying Squeak
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2022, 05:27:25 am »
Awesome!  Thanks.

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Re: Annoying Squeak
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2023, 03:42:29 pm »
Another source of annoying squeaks: Anti Sway Bar Bushings.

I have bad squeaking coming from the sway bar bushings in my Phoenix Cruiser. I have loosened the bushings and added additional grease before retightening them. They are quiet for a day or so of riding and then the loud squeaking starts again.

Any aftermarket bushings or solutions?  Not interested in removing or replacing the sway bar.

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Re: Annoying Squeak
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2023, 06:33:44 am »
Rubber lube, not grease.
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Re: Annoying Squeak
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2023, 12:54:22 pm »
Interesting!  I am at the point where I'll try anything. 

Although the internet claims  Polyurethane bushings shouldn’t be lubricated with oil or petroleum based lubricants the "PROTHANE" lubricant supplied with the installation kit appeared to be little more than a form of "Sticky" grease.  Seemingly unavailable through retail outlets, I can't find it in auto parts stores.  Writing to Hellwig Customer Service was of no help.  With their reply telling I am on my own,  I resorted to reinserting what had squeezed out during the clamping process.

Is there a brand name for your product?  A google search comes back with WD-40 and Silicone in aerosal form.


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Re: Annoying Squeak
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2023, 01:22:44 pm »
Updated Information:

Whoever said "Seek and Ye shall find" never had to contend with Google.  A year after not finding results, today's search gave me a hit

Prothane 3-Pack of 0.5-Ounce Super Grease Tubes for Polyurethane Bushings.

If you need to eliminate your Prothane bushings from squeaking immediately, then you need this Prothane 3-Pack of 0.5-Ounce Super Grease Tubes for Polyurethane Bushings (19-1750) from CJ Pony Parts!

Features and Benefits:
- Includes three (3) tubes
- 0.5 ounces per tube
- Designed for Prothane polyurethane bushings
- Prevents excessive squeaking
- Silicone-based formula
- Thicker, stickier, and more waterproof than lithium

Your new Super Grease from Prothane is specifically designed for their bushings in order to prevent the polyurethane from squeaking. Super Grease form Prothane is different from your normal automotive grease because Super Grease is silicone-based. This makes it much thicker and stickier than standard lithium grease and will help keep the polyurethane bushings from squeaking longer. The silicone-based Super Grease (19-1750) is also much more waterproof than standard lithium grease. Plus, being a thick, sticky grease will help it to stay on the bushings much longer than standard lithium grease!


And, of course, it comes with the obligatory warning for California Residents: I guess that means you can't buy it there