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Re: Feedback on new 7.3 Godzilla?
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2020, 09:40:11 am »
Comments in that thread showed it happened on pickups to.   Typically, an engine is an engine, built wherever and put in a vehicle as a whole.   Yes, different models of the engine exist such as the 2 or 3 valve V10 engines, but things like plug wires wouldn't change depending on which series of vehicle it's going into.

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Re: Feedback on new 7.3 Godzilla?
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2020, 11:13:08 am »
Not just the engine itself, there is a lot that goes into the various engine systems.  There are unique engineering considerations for the E-Series because of it's tight quarters to fit things in, a significant consideration given to "cooling".  A really really big radiator would be really nice for any E-series coolant and trans oil, especially as the engine gets bigger and bigger.  The 7.3L is "huge" so I imagine Ford is watching temps closely.  They may de-tune the engine so it doesn't run hotter than the cooling system and compartment air flow can support.  You don't want the dog house or plastic parts on the engine melting.
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Re: Feedback on new 7.3 Godzilla?
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2020, 12:11:48 pm »
Not just the engine itself, there is a lot that goes into the various engine systems.  There are unique engineering considerations for the E-Series because of it's tight quarters to fit things in, a significant consideration given to "cooling".  A really really big radiator would be really nice for any E-series coolant and trans oil, especially as the engine gets bigger and bigger.  The 7.3L is "huge" so I imagine Ford is watching temps closely.  They may de-tune the engine so it doesn't run hotter than the cooling system and compartment air flow can support.  You don't want the dog house or plastic parts on the engine melting.


20 years ago you could buy a E350 with a 7.3 motor, with a turbo (!)  so the displacement is no stranger to a van style engine compartment. Cooling should be a well worked out already.  (OK, no spark plug wires...  :lol )


I am impressed reading that thread linked above. If the case is spark plug wires.... REALLY?  If there was any component that I would guess is well understood, it would be spark plug wires.

If they have this engine so tight to the design limit spark plug wires are failing... I wonder what else is designed so close.  Same company that thought fewer spark plug threads were a good idea to save 'just that little bit' of casting cost.   In an aluminum head.

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Re: Feedback on new 7.3 Godzilla?
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2020, 12:35:03 pm »
I would stand clear of the Broncos for a while also.

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Re: Feedback on new 7.3 Godzilla?
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2020, 01:02:54 pm »
I would seriously doubt there would be cooling issues, but even if there were, all the "detuning" is done by the ECM so the engine itself wouldn't change.

Spark plug wires and/or coils can easily fail if not built properly.  Plug wires aren't copper and haven't been for decades.  They are carbon threads (insulated of course) to provide resistance to reduce spark plug noise in radios, etc.   Coils seem simple but if the wires aren't properly insulated, you'll get weak spark and mis-fires.

Sounds like a defective supplier issue. Who knows where Ford gets those parts from,especially with the covid lock downs and other stuff going on.
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Re: Feedback on new 7.3 Godzilla?
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2020, 07:24:24 pm »
Ron this engine is narrower than the V10.   That’s one of the big advantages of this engine for the RV industry

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Re: Feedback on new 7.3 Godzilla?
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2020, 09:08:47 pm »
Fast lane truck just showed report on first oil change at 10,000 miles.  These guys work this truck hard.  Black stone came back with TBN showing life left in the oil and all good normal numbers .

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Re: Feedback on new 7.3 Godzilla?
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2020, 10:11:02 pm »
Ron this engine is narrower than the V10.   That’s one of the big advantages of this engine for the RV industry
Ah!  Good to hear.
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Re: Feedback on new 7.3 Godzilla?
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2020, 03:38:44 pm »
At a campground this am, a neighbor came by and was talking about our PC.  He was on his way home from just picking up a coach house platinum. He had been talking to the “salesman” at PC, was told that the new motor”was going to add $15k to the new PC price”!

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Re: Feedback on new 7.3 Godzilla?
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2020, 04:45:16 pm »
Hummmm.... $15k?    $1500.but $15k

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Re: Feedback on new 7.3 Godzilla?
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2020, 05:03:15 pm »
Something was or is misunderstood.  A new crate engine is no where close to that. New trucks with this engine do not indicate any big increase as well.  Heck even Diesel engines typically don’t cost that much more.

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Re: Feedback on new 7.3 Godzilla?
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2020, 06:46:56 pm »
Just quoting what the man said.  Very knowledgeable about RV’ s.  We debated that price a bit but he stuck to it.  Sounded to me like someone in Elkhart either shot off at the hip, or was looking to see a great markup on a bare chassis.

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Re: Feedback on new 7.3 Godzilla?
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2020, 09:31:04 am »
So I checked MSRP on fords web site. MSRP is  $35,740 for the cut away E450 with the new engine. I don’t know what msrp was with the v10 but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t 20 grand.
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Re: Feedback on new 7.3 Godzilla?
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2020, 10:09:26 am »
My window sticker was a little over $31k.

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Re: Feedback on new 7.3 Godzilla?
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2020, 10:40:06 am »
There ya go, a few grand and there’s a certain amount of increase every year without a new engine design . A year from now there will be another increase.