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Euro chairs
« on: June 29, 2019, 10:32:23 pm »
Just asking - Has anyone with the euro chairs had trouble with the breaking of the ring that sits on the floor and allows for the chair to swivel? One of ours has broken, making the chair unable to turn.  Not sure if it can be repaired or if there is a replacement part.  Does anyone know who is the manufacturer of the chairs? Thanks for your help.

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Re: Euro chairs
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2019, 10:50:05 pm »
I believe Phoenix's seat supplier at that time in 2011 was Paul's Seating.  They are in the Elkhart area.  Google them.
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Re: Euro chairs
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2019, 07:25:22 am »
Just asking - Has anyone with the euro chairs had trouble with the breaking of the ring that sits on the floor and allows for the chair to swivel? One of ours has broken, making the chair unable to turn.  Not sure if it can be repaired or if there is a replacement part.  Does anyone know who is the manufacturer of the chairs? Thanks for your help.

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The seat bases in RV's are sorta universal... the seat maker usually makes the seat to match the common bolt patterns.

Keep in mind I have 'old' rv experience, but I imagine they were similar in 2011. The seat bases have the swivel built in, and often a good cleaning will free them up.



Above is a typical seat base, with seat belt bar in the back. If this looks similar to your seatbase, it is easy to find whats gumming things up. Taking off the 4 bolts (or nuts) that hold the seat to the base will leave you with the pedestal bolted to the floor, and looking similar to the pic above.

Inside is something that looks similar to this:



and that is the swivel. Repair kits are available for many, here is the link to the one above:  http://www.glastop.com/rv-furniture-detail.asp?id=710


If you are mechanically inclined, often you can disassemble the base, clean clean clean and oil, and have them work well. Depends on the cause...if the balls rusted away, well, might not work so well. If it was just dirt, dust and 'crud' hampering operation, then you might be VERY happy with results of an afternoon s work.  2o2


IF your base looks nothing like that... send pics.  (exactly)
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Re: Euro chairs
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2019, 07:30:41 am »
Thinking a bit more... there is a possibility the release lever broke also, not releasing the 'lock' allowing it to turn...   :-D  Though about that after re reading your post. If so, remove the seat, and investigate.  I did not find replacement parts for that.  :-[
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Re: Euro chairs
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2019, 08:07:57 am »
Volkeman, FYI - the Eurochair is a free standing recliner. No seat belt. No bolting to floor. Not a vehicle seat. It has a round wooden base with a metal base ring that it pivots on.

Linda - I don't recall reading about one breaking before but Ron is right, Paul's seating was the name on our 2013 chair. If a call to them doesn't help, call Carol at Phoenix.
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Re: Euro chairs
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2019, 09:43:56 am »
Paul's is still the source for the euro chair. 

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Re: Euro chairs
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2019, 11:12:15 am »
Volkeman, FYI - the Eurochair is a free standing recliner. No seat belt. No bolting to floor. Not a vehicle seat. It has a round wooden base with a metal base ring that it pivots on.



 :beg Wow. Sorry, had no idea.    tymote

Like this?



Thats 'only' 50 pounds... using this calculator (https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/car-crash-force) a 50 pound chair at 60 mph will impart .. 45,000+ ft/lb's of force, or the equivalent of being hit by a 22 TON object.   (chart at bottom, cant put them inline here)



So there is a free standing full size chair with attached base that is totally unsecured during over the road travel?!?!?  :help   Surely there must be some way it fastens down for travel... PLEASE.

I am sure to load all in our interior items so in case of 'sudden stop' they are not going to impact the operator/passenger. 
I have Mrs V clear the counter before road travel, and I really am uneasy about the corian plugs on the stove and sink even...but I am sorta comforted by the high back seats giving protection and their (relative) low mass. When it was there, the table was always stored for travel. NO if/ands or buts about it.  Suitcases and boxes stacked on the couch are held on by straps crisscrossing and fastened to the slider. They have shifted due to some 'avoidance maneuvers' during road trips, but never broken free. I count on the wall structure of the retracted slider to keep them in place should more violent moves happen. 

NO way I am gonna have my loverly lady with an unsecured recliner behind her.   Are people here with the Eurochair comfortable with it being 'free flying' in case of accident? Or, as I sincerely hope, there is actually a way to secure it safely during travel and only we safety nerds bother using it? Please say that is the case.

Or is this just something that guys that worked towing and recovery worry about? I have seen more than my share of gory accidents, and SO often it is unsecured loads that injure.  A carpenters van after a severe rollover?/ tree impact still has pictures burned into my brain 15 years later.. He and his helper were forced off the side by a merging truck that did not see them.  The tools that he worked with were the cause of his death when they flew around the interior. Had he gotten the 'proper' tool shelves and divider for the front compartment, that ~$1500 would have possibly saved his life. They were both belted in, and the cockpit was intact.  There was no question the flying tools had done them in, the cargo and operators were both a big mess in the cockpit when we recovered the van so EMT's could gain access.

Maybe I am overcautious. I probably am, exposure to death and violent crashes will do that. But if they truly put a recliner on a base that is totally unsecured, expect people to operate on the highways like that, and people have no regard for the danger... well there is no shortage of people I guess.  (WH)  But not on MY watch. 
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Re: Euro chairs
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2019, 11:27:30 am »
Yes Volkemon, the Euro chair clamps down to the floor for when the PC is being driven.  It's just not rated for a seat belt and occupant when being driven.

The Euro chair came out around 2010, replacing the bolted-down pedestal-mounted barrel chair with seat belt.

I replaced our low-back barrel chair with a 3rd captain chair, working with the original pedestal.  It is similar to the one you pictured up higher in this thread.  My pedestal has two levers, one for swivel, one for sliding.  The square tube in back is where the seat belt attaches.
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Re: Euro chairs
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2019, 11:33:15 am »
Yes Volkemon, the Euro chair clamps down to the floor for when the PC is being driven.  It's just not rated for a seat belt and occupant when being driven.


WHEW!  Thanks Ron. I hoped that HAD to be the case... but common sense isnt that common anymore.
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Re: Euro chairs
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2019, 11:35:42 am »
Yes I know.  I see some rigs of other brands for sale with a standard table and chairs.   (WH)
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Re: Euro chairs
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2019, 07:14:12 am »
There is a steel bar shaped bar shaped like a squared off question mark on its side. The open part sets over the chair base and the flat side has a bolt that screws into the floor. You can remove the bar/bracket when in camp so the chair is free to be moved about.
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