PC 3100 - What's not to like?

we were full time for 17 years in 35 to 40 footers. we now have a 2552 and spent 4 to 5 month summers in the 2552. for us there was never a problem. weight is 1000 pounds under. the only thing i miss is the 155 gallon fuel tank. don't take too much stuff. it just gets in the way.

We like our 2910 with twin beds in the rear in place of the slide. It's nice to be able to section the bedroom off from the living area and kitchen.
The twin beds in the rear allow plenty of room to get dressed and easy access to the cabinets above. The night stand between the beds is a great place to put an alarm clock and reading material etc.

We also enjoy the living area in the 2910 it provides a wonderful place to sit and visit with family and friends.

We like our 2910 with twin beds in the rear in place of the slide. It's nice to be able to section the bedroom off from the living area and kitchen.
The twin beds in the rear allow plenty of room to get dressed and easy access to the cabinets above. The night stand between the beds is a great place to put an alarm clock and reading material etc.

We also enjoy the living area in the 2910 it provides a wonderful place to sit and visit with family and friends.

 

The tire failure at PC factory mention above scared me.  I considered a used 2016 2910D recently. My favorite color. My dream motorhome. But I calculated rear driver tire to be 400-500 lbs over loaded with full water. That really bummed me out. I turned it down. The 3100 May not be as bad with one slide.

Ron

We were full time for almost two years and will be again after family issues resolve. We were RV newbies and I agonized over the choices. We love the rear bath and the twin beds that allow us to carry myriad people without making strangers sleep in the same bed. We manage fine with the space though if our granddaughter travels long term with us, it will probably feel tight. There are trade offs no matter what. For us, the final deciding factor was the payload. Add the extra weight and extra slide of the longer rigs and you lose about 1000 pounds of payload. The 2552 has about 3k to start with depending on options chosen. The longer ones have about 2k. I calculated the weight of water, gasoline, propane, people, pets, food, clothing, tools, toys, kitchen gear, outdoor gear, office equipment (we were working from the road), and just general "stuff" and quickly locked in on the 2552. We tow a Subaru Forester with a car top carrier and it acts as our extra gear wagon as well as our transport shuttle. We don't load the inside of the car too much because, again, we want to be able to carry extra people to the store, dinner out or just to a remote hiking or biking trail.

Ron, those blow outs are frequently due to overloading. I know a snowbird couple with a fifth wheel that blow out tires damaging their rig just about EVERY year. When they told me the story and I saw how much stuff they hauled I asked what their weight limits were and they had no clue. I can pretty much guarantee the weight they hauled was way over what those tires could handle.

Another note, the rear tire was dropped to qualify for some Ford specification for the extended frames. I assume it has to do with weight balancing but I don't know the specifics and can't speak on that. By dropping that spare tire, the Phoenix will get some "blessing" from Ford they didn't have before. I further assume competition has it and touts it so you may be able to find a reference and figure out the specifics by checking claims that way if you so desire.

According to a Michelon {sp} tire dealer I talked in the past, most blow outs on RV vehicles are caused by under inflation and road hazards.

Paw paw,
The over load I referred to was drivers side rear tires. There are a couple owners who weighed units in the forum. Using that as basis and adjusting for the units options like an added closet in the rear bedroom and using full water capacity it was over loaded more than I was comfortable.

PC not only removed spare and redesigned rear end they also went to a different slide. I would be interested in the weight of the 2910 after these changes. Hopefully if the new slide uses a channel it is steel and aluminum, as other companies have had issues with the aluminum channel slides.

Back to the thread. Hopefully we are going to Tampa RV Show next month. That would be the place to see all PC has to offer (they are planning on having a 2350, 2552, 2910D,and 3100). All manufactures will be there to compare and contrast.

I may be wrong, but I believe every new unit leaves the factory with a CCC rating. Most manufacturers calculate this number by taking the weight of the as built unit plus the weight of full tanks of propane, fuel and water and subtracting this combined weight from the GVWR of the E450. As long as you don't exceed this CCC, and maintain proper tire inflation, you should be ok. Of course, the tire need to be inspected on a regular basis.

Merry Christmas
Ron