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Ron Dittmer

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  • Model: 2350 Ford
  • ModelYear: 2007
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  • Location: N/E Illinois
Re: PC Quick Look
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2015, 01:59:02 pm »
I hear you Joseph.  Two-Foot-Eyetis is a hard addition to control.  I can't say for sure if we'd really consider a bigger rig, but our garage does keep that addiction at bay because our 2350 just makes it inside in length & height.  In the places we travel, smaller is better, so that too helps to think smaller.  Actually, there has been a time or two when I felt we went too big with a 2350.  But the conveniences and comfort always pull me back into feeling good about our decision.
Ron (& Irene) Dittmer

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Re: PC Quick Look
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2015, 02:49:51 pm »
We used to have a 31' 5th wheel and quickly learned the bigger is not better idea. Also as someone stated above, very nervous towing it and wife and I dreaded parking it. So in 3 years of owning it, we only used it twice for 1k+ mile 2 weeks trips each time. Frustrated and nervous the whole time. Not worth it.
An RV about 23-25 feet is just the right size for us, which means a small class C or a Class B van that we have now. Much, much more relaxed driving and parking it. It's 24' long and on our recent Florida trip, I drove it all over Key West with no problem.
Also, we don't need to take a bunch of junk with us that gets used once a year, or less. Anything we carry that hasn't been used in the last year in the RV gets tossed. Works for us...
Bob & Sharon
Current: 2013 Winnebago ERA Class B Sprinter Van
Future: 2100 special, 2350, ?? on a hopefully Ford Transit 350 or 450

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Joseph

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Re: PC Quick Look
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2015, 04:23:26 pm »
We started looing for the 2350 but couldn't find a later model used at the right price. When we located the one we bought we thought we were buying a 2551 only to find out after its a 2552. At just under 28 foot its the most we will ever need, being we don't full time. Now the search is on for toad, (a wee one). 

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ragoodsp

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Re: PC Quick Look
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2015, 04:39:21 pm »
Joseph......

You might want to take a look at the new little Jeep Renegade.  They are starting to show up at dealers now.  I looked at a Trailhawk model yesterday and they are very cool looking and I bet they will tow nicely.  The automatic transmission models can not be towed four down but the 6 speed manuels can be towed four down. 

 
Ron Goodspeed

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Doneworking

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Re: PC Quick Look
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2015, 04:42:19 pm »
We have had our 2350 for about 18 months now.  We go some pretty off the beaten path places and it really works well for those boondocking experiences, mostly in the National Forests.  We slapped two hundred watts of solar on the roof and we are happy little campers!  This summer, we will escape the Oklahoma heat and head for the Northern New Mexico mountains back in the forest campgrounds.  The 2350 is like incredible luxury space wise for us, except for the limited exterior storage.  We came from the Class B world having had three Bs:  two Roadtreks and many years ago a Horizon which was made by Intervec, a company with a very close relationship and heritage to Phoenix Cruiser.  

When you come from Class Bs to a 2350, you have gone big time interior space wise!   From a wet to a dry bath, from a narrow aisle of 30 inches to a nice slide, from small twin beds that my 5' 8" body was really too tall for to a corner bed that is essentially a full size bed.  So, we love our 2350 and have no desire for something bigger after all those years of Bs.   The last B we owned was a Roadtrek 210P and it was a beauty, 22 feet long, totally tricked out and only 8' 4" high.  It had more inside and outside storage than the 2350 and got about 14 honest mpg.  It drove just like what it was:  a big van.  Our traveling style has changed from mostly touring to mostly camping for a couple of weeks in one spot and seeing the area with our toad, a Jeep Cherokee.  For this stage of our life, the PC is perfect.  We solved the camping gear storage problem by just flipping down the back seat in the Jeep and filling that baby full of "stuff", most of which we will never or very seldom use, but we got it if we need it.  Incidentally, our Cherokee Trailhawk is automatic and tows nicely four down.  The PC handles it just fine and it weighs about 4100 pounds with our stuff in it.

We have had two close friend couples sell their big Class A motorhomes in the last few months.   Just toooo much hassle and, although they wouldn't openly surrender the truth, scary to drive.   The Phoenix Cruiser products are a perfect compromise between too big and too small.  Like Goldilocks, just about right.  We couldn't be more pleased with our rig.

I congratulate anyone with the courage to have a large or small trailer.  I could never have one because my wife's screams when I tried to back up that puppy would probably eliminate
what little hearing I have left (exactly)!!

Paul
« Last Edit: April 01, 2015, 04:46:24 pm by Doneworking »

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Joseph

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Re: PC Quick Look
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2015, 05:09:48 pm »
Ragood.. Unless I come across an older jeep wrangler at the right price I won't go with a Jeep. No offence to those that really like them but I'm not fond of the newer models.  Too much Chrysler not enough Jeep.  Well that and I have only bought one new vehicle since 1988. And that was recently with a new Fusion.  I really dislike buying new when so many buys are out there. IE in 2009 I bought a 2001 Lexus  LS430 with 25,000 miles for 7,400.  I'd still have it if that goof ball in front of me had notice I was asleep and not stopped in front of me. Some peoples kids, sheesh

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ragoodsp

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Re: PC Quick Look
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2015, 08:29:27 am »
joseph....I hear you on purchasing new vehicles..... but with that said I have to say the new Jeep products are getting better and better in my opinion.  Having owned 8 Jeep's I can honestly say the two 14's I own now are both super vehicles.  The problem is many of the new vehicles are no longer able to be towed four down or you have to pull fuses, start the vehicles up every couple hundred miles, or use transmission pumps. Jeep products are with out a doubt still very easy to tow with no specials requirements.   A used Wrangler would be super but I would make sure  it has the 3.6L and not the 3.8L engine.  Best of luck.
Ron Goodspeed

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TomHanlon

Re: PC Quick Look
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2015, 09:38:39 am »
We are a Jeep family. We have owned six jeeps over the years and yes there have been some problems, the same as any brand. We have owned several other brand and did not fined them much different as far as problems. I think it is how you care for them and the luck of the draw when you buy one.

We towed a 2004 Liberty for ten years before getting our new 2015 Cherokee Trailhawk. Have now towed it for about 2K miles behind the PC. When I get back home, I will hop into my 2014 Grand Cherokee and be very happy. We love both our Jeeps.
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ragoodsp

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Re: PC Quick Look
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2015, 01:03:40 pm »
Tom....you are right on!   You have the exact same (model and year)Jeep's as I do.  I find the Cherokee Trailhawk tows much better compared to my old 06 Liberty diesel.  How do you find them in comparison?
Ron Goodspeed

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TomHanlon

Re: PC Quick Look
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2015, 03:14:20 pm »
I like the new one better. The Liberty did not have aux. brakes while the Trailhawk has SMI plug and play brakes. The tow bars are spread a little wider on the Trailhawk but it does not seen to make much difference when towing it just doesn't sway as much.

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Joseph

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Re: PC Quick Look
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2015, 09:43:10 am »
Tom, no doubt I see more jeeps towed behind rv's over any other vehicle.  I'm glad you have good such a experience with them. There just not right for me at this time.

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Joseph

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Re: PC Quick Look
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2015, 09:46:06 am »
Ragood, I'll keep that in mind should I come across one, Thanks. Unless one drops from the heavens at a super can't pass it up price it probably won't come into play. However stranger things have happened.