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PC vs.Nexus
« on: September 05, 2014, 08:37:50 pm »
Hi P.C friends,  My wife and I are going to the Hershey RV show next weekend. Looking forward to see the Pheonix Crusier  up close. In emailing the company the models we are interested in,2350 and 2552 will be there. We have come across the name of another company out of Elkhart,In. Which also
will build according to customers request,to a point. Has anyone heard of this company either good or bad. Thank you.  Tim :help

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Re: PC vs.Nexus
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2014, 09:38:05 pm »
On other forums, people who own a Nexus praise the company and their products.  Nexus is only a few years old so nobody knows how well their rigs will stand the test of time.  But I don't see anything alarming on my computer screen.  I can't say they are built as well as a Phoenix Cruiser, but the price is adjusted lower accordingly.  I personally have trouble with their rear wall construction method.  PCs have a solid 5-sided semi-double-wall rear wall.  The Nexus appears to use a flat panel with a top cap for style.  Motor homes in general count on the rear wall to keep the structure squared up so a PC should do a better job of it.  Also the Nexus rear wall places the seam work in the corners instead of around to the sides.  I feel the corners see a lot more stress so I would not want the seam work there.

Keep in-mind I never kicked the tires of a Nexus, so don't take my input too seriously.  It has been a long time since I walked through an RV show.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2014, 09:45:29 pm by ron.dittmer »
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Re: PC vs.Nexus
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2014, 11:49:49 pm »
What Ron says above. Also the Nexus is a bigger coach in size, has squared off front coach walls vs tapered on the PC, and I don't think the cabinetry in the Nexus is as good quality.
Now I base this on the videos and statements folks have made about PC's wood quality, not ever seeing one in person. I have sat in, fiddled with and just generally played with a brand new Nexus that a friend of ours bought a couple months ago. She really likes it and bought it for the price vs the interior quality. She was able to make some minor changes in their basic plan, more 120v outlets, shelf over the dinette instead of cabinets, moved the toilet a few inches from standard etc, no oven on stove. She was able to pick a 450 chassis instead of a 350 on my recommendation.
As Ron stated above, it's a brand new company with growing pains. Our friend spent 3 extra days at the factory getting some items installed that the assemblers "forgot". Otherwise no issues.

Just as an extra point that doesn't really make any difference here. She traded in a 2009 Chevrolet class B Pleasureway van on the Ford Nexus. When we met up with her, her first words to me were, this sure doesn't drive or handle as well as my Chevy did. A common comment out there...
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Re: PC vs.Nexus
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2014, 09:16:43 am »
As I remember it, when Nexus first started, they hacked a PC owner’s list and solicited all of them to switch to Nexus.  Not cool; downright devious.  I’d never deal with them because of that.
I remember very few of the things that I’ve spent money to buy, but I remember all of the places that I’ve spent money to see.

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Re: PC vs.Nexus
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2014, 09:58:28 am »
As bobojay and I have described, the Nexus is not a higher end rig.  It seems to be a little higher than the entry level and priced accordingly.  I would surely look at them if considering an entry level.  Paying a little more to get a little better could be worth it.  Because of them being a small factory direct operation like PC-USA, they offer the ability to make deviations the big companies cannot, another advantage to me.
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Re: PC vs.Nexus
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2014, 10:05:56 am »
As I remember it, when Nexus first started, they hacked a PC owner’s list and solicited all of them to switch to Nexus.
I recall getting an email from Nexus, wondering how they knew about me.  It is possible they went on www.rv.net and plucked our email addresses from there.
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Re: PC vs.Nexus
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2014, 11:49:33 am »
I never got an email from them, but finally heard their name on RV.Net. Checked them out a bit, found out that their President & Vice pres. are ex Fleetwood or Coachman execs who took some seed money started a new company, found a cheap factory building, which were plentiful back in the 2010-11 time frame in Elkhart, and went from there.
Our friend that just bought the Nexus was VERY happy with their trade offer for her Lexor, which made the deal possible. She did not however check with PC based on my telling her that PC's were higher priced and the fact that the $$$$ was her top priority, and that PC doesn't make over the cab bed class C models like Nexus does.

I hope we are helping the original poster a bit here and not turning them off to any one company
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Re: PC vs.Nexus
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2014, 01:32:50 pm »
.....and that PC doesn't make over the cab bed class C models like Nexus does.
Someone somewhere mentioned someplace that Phoenix made a class c cab-over bed for a customer in Europe.  I heard it just once, never able to confirm it.  It did have me wondering if they are experimenting with larger fronts for cab-over beds.  That would make for a nice option on any model, especially nice for the 2100, 2400, and families.
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2014, 01:55:09 pm »
The two salesman came from Gulf stream after it went belly up. They are reproducing the old Gulf stream as far as I could tell. I got an email from them wanting my PC as a trade in. I sent the email to the Phoenix salesman. I never heard from them again.

I have seen them at the Hershey show. They do have both class C and B+ models.  I felt the outside art work was way over board but the inside looked better. The construction could have changed since I saw them, hopefully for the better.

There is reason they make so many different  types and levels of motorhomes. One for each person, as we each have different wants and needs and money to send on it.

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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2014, 05:49:19 pm »
Thanks Tom for the clarification on the Nexus head cats. I thought someone had posted somewhere Coachman and or Fleetwood, but Gulf Stream is right. Now I remember......
In the class B world, Gulf Stream was considered bottom rung on both quality and design. Their vans were basically just thrown together with bad engineering too
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Re: PC vs.Nexus
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2014, 05:53:39 pm »
Thank you to all for your very informative replies. If this is true of the nexus people stealing email address I surely would not want to deal with them.looks like PC to me! tymote (exactly) heartshower

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Re: PC vs.Nexus
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2014, 07:29:05 am »
Since we are discussing quality, on rv.net I recall around 2008-2009 that Fleetwood had serious quality issues.  One story in particular, a new owner seeing sun light beaming inside one of his hanging kitchen cabinets.  The solution was of coarse caulk.  Soon thereafter the company got bought out, but I don't recall by whom.

Reading story after story of different sagas from a variety of motor home manufactures, I learned much about good versus poor construction.  My replies on quality got more and more detailed to the point that it looks more like an magazine article than a reply.

I should try copying that reply of mine into a new post here.
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Re: PC vs.Nexus
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2014, 11:09:13 am »
The timing of this thread is impeccable! I, too, am heading to Hershey next weekend. I am angsting between the Phoenix 2350 and the Nexus 23P. The 2350 would be my fist choice except for the lack of exterior storage for chairs, grilss, etc. The Nexus has all the storage I need plus 2 permanent beds and is about $15K less in cost after adding comparable options.

What to do??  Argh.




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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2014, 11:25:45 am »
I don't think anyone is running down the quality of the Nexus in general because from what I saw on our friend's new one, the only thing lacking was maybe a bit of "spit & polish" so to speak on the cabinetry. Otherwise everything on it looked good. She bought a 24P.
Nexus's early business practices might have been a little over the top in getting references for sure.
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2014, 11:34:48 am »
I have compared the PC and the Nexus on 3 separate occasions at the Tampa RV Show.

I agree that the square style of the body turns me off as well as the cab over. I didn't like the interior of the Coach--they tried to be too trendy and the fit and finish did not compare with the PC.

We also got an email from them soliciting our business. Not impressed!!!!!!!!!!
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