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General Discussion / Re: 12 Volt fridge replacement
« Last post by LRUCH on October 01, 2026, 08:59:46 pm »
I waited a bit to reply, as I wanted to see what other ideas and advice was offered.  I don't have any advice contrary to what's been offered above. I can understand needing a fridge+freezer that is dependable and versatile.  With that said....


The Norcold line has been around for decades and will be for more, for good reason.  When RV'ing you may have electricity at your destination, but you need a power source when traveling. Sometimes that needs to be a power source that is fiumeless (no propane in tunnels or on ferries) ... And you may be boondocking and reserving your electrical power for lights and AC.  And that's where the 3 way Norcold excels.   TBH, I find my 2way to be as good it better than a 3 way after I upgraded to L-ion batteries.  At least I didn't spend additional money for the 3way... If the 2way quits one day, then I would consider it.


I also took the time to make some improvements to the installation of the Norcold.  Cleaned it up. Added insulation. Added positive air flow on the back side. Improved the air baffles.  It made a huge improvement.  Full details here [size=78%]https://forum.phoenixusarv.com/index.php?topic=4820.0[/size]


This was a high return investment.




I would caution that just replacing a fridge could put you in the same place you are now, just less some cash paid for a new fridge because the problem more likely to be the cabinetry/air flow/insulation. 


The entire purpose of the fridge is to take heat out of the fridge and freezer and keep your cold food cold and your frozen food frozen.  On the really hot days if the  fridge is not able to get the heat OUT OF THE RV, a newer fridge is likely to not do it much better. 


I live in Texas and vacation often in Texas and the gulf coast Mexico to Florida on days over 100F and nights in the upper 80s. - - much hotter than California. (I used to live in Sacramento in the 90s)  I travel with rock solid ice cream in the freezer and a fridge full of produce, meats, dairy and beverages.  After these improvements I've never tossed food because it spoiled from being held at the wrong temp. And, maybe once a year I end up freezing some lettuce in the fridge because it works too well.  I just learned to not put the lettuce in the top shelf near the fins.


If you haven't read my fridge improvements writeup yet, please give it a chance. I think it is better money spent... And whatever fridge you end up with will not work as hard and consume as much energy.  I didn't record propane consumption so I can't provide evidence, but I now fill up the LP tank only once a year. I used to fill it up twice a summer and again in the winter. And I know for certain the interior of my PC is cooler since the fridge is not heating up the inside walls... I very pleased with the results.


Just my 20 cents (including inflation).


Larry
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General Discussion / Re: 12 Volt fridge replacement
« Last post by Ron Dittmer on October 01, 2026, 02:21:34 pm »
Somewhat related.....

I understand that the absorption fridge in a PC, most especially when mounted inside a slide-out with a high-mounted side discharge chimney, benefit from a low rpm secondary fan added in the chimney to increase air flow during hot weather.  Making it clear that I have no personal first-hand experience, only reading about it.  How effective is it at 90?  95?  100?  I don't know.  I hope someone with experience will chime in and share factual data.

A 12V-only fridge seems to be of concern.  Why not have a 3-way 120V/propane/12V?  This way you have options.  Back in 2007, we had a 3-way choice but decided on the 2-way 120V/propane.
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General Discussion / Re: 12 Volt fridge replacement
« Last post by CalCruiser on October 01, 2026, 12:38:08 pm »
Sufficient  battery capacity is the main concern. Does Phoenix still offer the Volta System option?

Ask Google Gemini “how many amps does a 12v rv refrigerator consume?”
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General Discussion / 12 Volt fridge replacement
« Last post by Funseekers on September 30, 2026, 04:16:43 pm »
Hi all! Just spoke to the Mothership regarding ordering a new PC with a 12 volt fridge installed.  Keith is a straight shooter when asked anything PC related and said while they will install a 12 Volt of our choosing, there are known issues regarding low battery voltage causing failures in these units.
We love our absorption Norcold but not practical for the type of specialty food we eat in that we live in the Central Valley of California.  The absorption fridge will cool to around 40 degrees from outside ambient temperatures and we love hot weather!  ( well, we love to boondock in summer so we have no choice😂). Since it’s usually mid to high nineties obviously we have a problem keeping our food sufficiently safe.
What think you fine folks about the 12 volt option?
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General Discussion / Re: Sanicon remote switch.
« Last post by Ron Dittmer on September 28, 2026, 01:29:54 pm »
Yes....the wife's initial solution was to carry a broom stick and flip the switch from 6 ft away. This was unacceptable to me for several reasons...like having to replace the whacked switch and every other thing errantly whacked multiple times.
I can picture the entertainment you would provide for the driver of the rig behind you waiting to dump.
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General Discussion / Re: Sewer hose storage
« Last post by Ron Dittmer on September 28, 2026, 01:23:46 pm »
Such a storage tube could be utilized to store fishing poles or other long difficult-to-store items.  Just be sure dedicate the tube for such a purpose.
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General Discussion / Re: Sewer hose storage
« Last post by wideglide on September 28, 2026, 11:50:07 am »
Thanks Ron. Of course i did get the idea from your long list of improvements thread. We will primarily use the sanicon system and just gravity dump as a back up. Mainly wanted to share for the benefit of others who need a good way to store their stuff.
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General Discussion / Re: Sanicon remote switch.
« Last post by wideglide on September 28, 2026, 11:46:26 am »
Yes....the wifes initial solution was to carry a broom stick and flip the switch from 6 ft away. This was unacceptable to me for several reasons...like having to replace the whacked switch and every other thing errantly whacked multiple times.
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General Discussion / Re: Sanicon remote switch.
« Last post by Ron Dittmer on September 28, 2026, 10:43:32 am »
That is a very interesting problem to deal with on a regular basis.  Carrying a 12x6x1.5 patio block around to weigh the end down doesn't compare to a remote start.  2o2
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General Discussion / Re: Sewer hose storage
« Last post by Ron Dittmer on September 28, 2026, 10:38:00 am »
Your 2011 PC-2350 being different than my 2007 PC-2350 (the outdoor storage compartment relocated in 2008), I wondered how it could be managed.  Yours seems quite secure and set ~1.5" lower for straight access naturally making it easier to utilize, a great convenience when it is your primary dumping method.  Good for you.
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