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electric bikes, rack and tongue weight

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echo11

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electric bikes, rack and tongue weight
« on: October 23, 2011, 01:54:20 pm »
We have a 2011 Phoenix Cruiser 2350 without the slide.  We are very happy with it.  Since we don't want to tow a car, we have decided to get electric bikes to add to our mobility when at campgrounds.  We realize they are heavier than traditional bikes.  They each, without the battery, weigh just under 50 lbs.  We want to get a platform type hitch bike rack.  Would the added weight in the back (tongue weight) cause any problems?  Does anyone else have electric bikes they bring with them?  Any suggestions on type of hitch rack that could carry the weight of 2 bikes and work on our RV?
Thanks for any suggestions!
Roni     

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Re: electric bikes, rack and tongue weight
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2011, 02:11:38 am »
Hi Echo -

Good, intelligent question.  While not an RV owner yet, one the scenarios I had envisioned was a hitch platform for a 300# scooter.  And I could see I needed to explore chassis load dynamics.

Weight hung off the back obviously affects loading dynamics, as that rear axle centerline acts as a fulcrum, multiplying the load beyond mere pounds.

The first issue is making sure the platform itself and the bikes together do not exceed the 500# rating of the receiver.

Then you apply a formula to determine axle load changes.  There was a really great primer on this somewhere out on the web by a recognizable authority, but can't remember where it was.  But did find this civillian example quickly on another Board.  Hope this is accurate, because I can't find that more authoritative table right now.

Suffice it to say there is a better authority out there, but here's an example I found easily:



"The formulas are:

FrontAxleUnload = Load x (RearAxleToLoadDistance)/Wheelbase

RearAxleLoad=Load + FrontAxleUnload

Example:

The wheelbase of my camper is 160".  I hang a 200 lb total load on a
platform about 120" from the rear axle.

FrontAxleUnload = 200lb x 120"/160" = 150lb

RearAxleLoad = 200lb + 150lb = 350lb"

Food for thought


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Re: electric bikes, rack and tongue weight
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2011, 06:40:28 am »
Thanks- good info.
At this point we have decided on the electric bikes- Prodeco G mariner 7.  They are just under 50 lbs each.  Most platform type hitch racks are rated under that weight limit (around 70 lb total weight limit).  So, of course, we needed to look at more expensive racks.  We are seriously considering the 1 up usa rack for 2 bikes.  Comsidering the bike weight and rack weight, it would be under 150 lbs.
The rack gets great reviews.  Is anyone familiar with this type of rack?
Thanks-
Roni