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Mice
« on: May 31, 2022, 10:46:22 am »
We have owned or 2910d for three winters now.  The first two years there was no evidence of mice except in the passenger rear drawer/compartment.   This year when we opened it to get ready for the season there was mice dropping and more almost everywhere. Luckily all textiles are stored on tubs and the mattress is placed on top so it was untouched.  I have queried the forum but not found a lot of info except “seal all openings”.  They did come into the front cupboards but didn’t stay as they were empty.  They were under the bathroom sink, kitchen sink, stove and in all the drawers there.  They were under the bed where the water pump sits. There’s were all over the inside of the coach.  Can anyone give me specifics about where they have closed openings to prevent this.  Also, what about the slides - what prevents them from coming up through the rubber track the wires/ pipes run through?
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Re: Mice
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2022, 11:57:40 am »
Hello JO

Sorry to hear about your mice issues. This is the first year I lived in TN and I am out in the sticks. I had mice wanting to come and enjoy my PC as well. Like you in the rear pull out drawer I had a couple setting up camp. First thing I did was removed everything out of the camper except the mattresses. Then I figured out how they were getting into the rear pull out drawer.  The rear corners of the drawer are rounded and don't seal against the back when closed. and the drawer is about a 1/4" lower then than the floor above it. I cut a wooden spacer that I screwed to the bottom of the floor to fill the gap.

Then I laid under the camper with steel wool and caulk for a couple hours. Stuffing in steel wool and caulking everything that even looked like an entry point. I also had a couple that liked the engine compartment, so I put out glue traps under the hood in 5 different areas and bait at each tire.  I use that tomcat small pellet and since this I haven't seen any of them.  I do check regularly for them.  I have never had them inside the coach besides that rear outside drawer. I have been told that on the ford E-series the mice can crawl up inside the window posts from the engine compartment and get inside behind the front cap. I haven't checked this out to verify it, but today I will go and take a look.

Very Respectfully
Lance
« Last Edit: May 31, 2022, 12:21:58 pm by Engineerlt »

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Re: Mice
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2022, 12:57:43 pm »
Every fall when I winterize I set a few traps on the inside and have never had any mice issues that is until this year.  The rear exterior slide-out bid had a huge nest.  I kept towels and rags in there and they made great nesting material.  There was also a sizable stash of pine cone seeds.....they were very comfortable!  They did not however not gain access to the water tank area or main cabin.  I set traps in the bin and caught two overnight. I plan on leaving one set in there until I fix the problem.This has never happen before.   I need to seal the gap in back of the slide-out bin when its closed to stop the little critters.  Maybe this is where your mice get in. Good luck.

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Re: Mice
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2022, 01:23:17 pm »
Living where we do, mice is a constant battle.  Snap traps work, but require constant care because the mice often set the trap yet get away.  Rectangular glue traps with a dab of peanut butter is 100% effective, and they can catch more than one mouse without constant tending.
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Re: Mice
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2022, 02:46:03 pm »
Hello
Here are some pictures I just took. Also it is possible for mice to travel up the windshield pillar on the drivers and passengers sides, an gain access behind the cap. This allows them free rain inside the RV. I ran a tig rod down the opening it went down about 3 feet. I didn't find the end but I went and added steel wool into the opening from the inside behind the pillar trim.

One picture is the piece of wood I installed to close up the gap for the rear pullout drawer. One is of the opening behind the windshield pillar trim that used to add in the steel wool (did it on drivers and passengers sides). The other is under the hood drivers side, I removed the big rubber plug under the plastic windshield cowl and found a mouse nest. So I cleaned it out and used some aluminum air conditioning duct tape to seal up where they were getting in I believe.

Very Respectfully
Lance
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Re: Mice
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2022, 04:40:11 pm »
I'm reside in Florida and Indiana. My solution has been moth balls. Don't put them inside your PC! You'll smell the moth balls forever. I put them under the PC on the ground. Knock on wood...this has worked for me. No smell in the PC.

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Re: Mice
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2022, 12:39:22 am »
I'm reside in Florida and Indiana. My solution has been moth balls. Don't put them inside your PC! You'll smell the moth balls forever. I put them under the PC on the ground. Knock on wood...this has worked for me. No smell in the PC.
Stored outside in winter under our deck as shown, I put mounds and mounds of moth balls inside my Saturn Sky trunk, passenger compartment, and numerous places under the hood, yet mice still explore and even taste things.  Unfortunately, killing them is the only real solution.
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Re: Mice
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2022, 07:05:53 am »
We've only had a few mice inside in nine years. We never did figure out how they got in. We crawled all over under the PC and couldn't find any openings even when the slide was out (we have the scissor arms, touchless slide). We think they come in through the engine compartment. If your slide is in during storage there shouldn't be any access points there. The few times we stored the PC we put home made peppermint oil sachets everywhere, even under the hood. We had no mice even though the storage area was infested with them.
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Re: Mice
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2022, 09:26:56 am »
We are fortunate to have an enclosed storage space a couple of miles from our home.   Mice have never been a problem but I am sure a few of them make it into the place.  Since nothing larger than a rodent could ever get into the space, I always keep a cube of Tomcat near each of the wheels.   A few years ago, I noticed one of the blocks had a few small indentions on it so I know a mouse had been at work.  No more mouse.  Farmers use this stuff a lot.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/tomcat-mouse-killer-refillable-station-16-x-1-ozblocks?cm_vc=-10005



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Re: Mice
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2022, 09:43:17 am »
The solution that works for me is 100% peppermint oil soaked cotton balls, located in coach and engine compartment. They don't like the smell and it doesn't bother people.



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Re: Mice
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2022, 09:44:06 am »
Though I have never tried it, I understand a small tray of non-diluted generic anti-freeze works, but you have to be very careful if pets are involved.  You don't want your cat or dog drinking it.

I have tried the product Doneworking recommends, but I wonder if there is a shelf life on the poisonous ingredient.  It seems the product gets eaten, but the problem persists.

Deterrents like keelhauler are interesting, but I want to kill them, not shoo them away because they just move to another place of irritation here around the house and property.

Between the tiny and larger mice, the chipmunks and squirrels, it is madness here.  We lost our patio umbrella and other things because I "had a heart" for way too long.  I had no choice but resort to extermination.
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Re: Mice
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2022, 05:30:05 pm »
Ron is right, Tomcat does have a "shelf life".   I change mine out about every two or three months. 

Another problem with squirrels, rats, mice and chipmunks is they are curious critters and love to eat wiring.  We often boondock for a week or so at a time and use our toad to get around.  Chipmunks in particular seem to have a love affair with our Cherokee. 

I carry a nice assortment of rubber snakes that are very realistic in appearance.   I put a few of them under the PC and the Jeep when parked out in the boonies.  I have seen chipmunks and ground squirrels run under  and come running out so I assume in some cases they may help a bit, but I can't be sure.   

Also, when camped out in cool weather they love the warmth remaining in a motor so I make sure to fire up the PC and Jeep at least a couple of times a day to run out any brave miscreants.  I don't know if it has helped or not but it is a cheap preventative.   

 

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Re: Mice
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2022, 01:21:29 am »
My storage location has an "automatic mouse killing system" ... One of the tenants feeds about 9 cats 3 or 4 days a week. Enough to keep them around, and little enough to keep them hunting for mice. They also keep the bird population off my PC.
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Re: Mice
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2022, 06:36:55 am »
Working cats - Awesome! Best Friends Animal Society has a program for feral cats - the community cat program. Groups trap feral cats, get them spayed or neutered, clip the tip of their ears, then return them to where they came from...UNLESS it is too dangerous there or the community has a complete fit. Then they can't return them and most feral cats do not adapt well to being pets so they put them in their working cat program. They are re-homed to farms and factories where they work as mousers. I never thought of storage facilities but that's a perfect place also.
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Re: Mice
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2022, 09:18:20 am »
My storage location has an "automatic mouse killing system" ... One of the tenants feeds about 9 cats 3 or 4 days a week. Enough to keep them around, and little enough to keep them hunting for mice. They also keep the bird population off my PC.
When we first got married, we lived frugally in the back half of the main floor of a VERY old 5 unit converted house.  The neighbor next door fed alley cats so they were everywhere.  That introduced a problem of a different kind.  There needs to be a "balance of nature" that is difficult to define and maintain.

I have terminated 5 (correction...7 as of this morning) chipmunks around my house in the past 4 days using the JAWZ trap bated with peanut butter.  The smaller mice enjoy the treat without activating it, hence the sticky pads.

I think I wiped out the mouse threat in enclosed spaces like the garage and shed, now focused outdoors around the house.  Chipmunks, mice, squirrels, it's all the same problem.  They get into things and do damage.

Squirrels are smarter, not sure how to get them.  A cheap Daisy BB rifle has no aim beyond 20 feet, making a kill nearly impossible.  You need to attract them to get them close enough for a shot which in itself defeats the purpose by having them hang around close to the house.  I could buy a better rifle that shoots pointed BBs for a clean shot from afar, but as many here know me, I am such a miser.

I would try automotive anti-freeze (ethylene glycol) but I don't want to kill other creatures that we live in harmony with.

We let the rodents have their way for far too long that it has become a serious problem around our house, so much that even Irene is on-board with this unfortunate measure of action.
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