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Re: Exterior silicone
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2022, 12:23:43 pm »
So I went with the pro flex crystal clear.  Looks weird being so clear.  I wonder if it will yellow.  I need to get some touch up paint as well.  I had the paint info from Dave at PC, but you think I can find the info?  LOLOLOL

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Re: Exterior silicone
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2022, 12:37:48 pm »
I might think twice about taking the factory suggestion on this one.
On my 2020 2552  the clear silicone (?) that they used on my seams has dark spots in it that don't wash off.
Looks like mold to me.
It is not terrible yet so I have not tried to do anything about it.
The seams are all intact just looking funky.

I'll try the Geocell when the time comes.
I would rather go for "consistency" since they will be touching up areas instead of re-caulking the entire rig.  Who knows if an alternative caulk is the better choice?

Two years with mold spotting......do you live in an extremely high humid environment?  That isn't right.
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Re: Exterior silicone
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2022, 02:30:40 pm »
Hi Ron: We live just south of Boston MA but well inland. I started noticing it early last season.
Will take a closer look and maybe take a pic or two.
I don't think our climate is that unusual. Maybe being under a cover?
It  isn't bad enough yet to really concern me but I was surprised to see it.

Udate: Just decided to go take a look. In the pic you can see the left end is where I just tried to wash it off with some 409.
A lot of it was on the surface but I think some is inside or in pores. Will try some bleach when I uncover and dewinterize in a couple of weeks.
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« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2022, 07:57:07 am »
I don't think our climate is that unusual. Maybe being under a cover?
Do you protect your PC with an RV cover?  If so, that may explain your mold problem.

We also own THIS SATURN SKY but not enough garage space to accommodate it off-season.  I had wrestled with how to protect it outside over the winter.  Of coarse a well fitting car cover was one option.  In the Sky forum, the general consensus was "Do Not Cover" the car, rather park it under a car port to allow the air to flow.  Otherwise mold and rodent damage could become a problem.

In our particular situation, for $20 I came up with this makeshift car port under our deck that erects and comes down quickly.  This method of protection has it's own issues, primarily little birds seek shelter all winter long by sitting in the wheels and on the brake calipers, and they poop a lot.  At least they stay off the convertible top and paint work.  I do protect everything internal and under-hood with piles of moth balls which has worked very well in keeping rodents out.
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Re: Exterior silicone
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2022, 07:33:41 pm »
I hear that’s a sporty car.  What kind of MPG do you get with that?

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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2022, 09:14:53 pm »
I hear that’s a sporty car.  What kind of MPG do you get with that?
Not as good by today's standards.  We see roughly 30 mpg, but those are joy-riding miles out in the country under ideal conditions.  Our Sky has the non-turbo'd 2.4L with 5-speed stick shift drivetrain.  We enjoy our day trips in our Sky, top-down.  It's our 4 wheel motorcycle with good fowl weather protection.
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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2022, 10:00:17 pm »
Oh ok.  A friend of mine had one and was always complaining about the poor mpg’s.  Must have been the turbo.

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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2022, 12:28:49 am »
Oh ok.  A friend of mine had one and was always complaining about the poor mpg’s.  Must have been the turbo.
It's all about how hard you are on the car.  Cruise along, enjoy the fresh air, the scenery, the experience, it's all good then.
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Re: Exterior silicone
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2022, 11:28:29 am »
I contacted PC a few years ago on what to use. They told me they use Dicor. 502 self leveling for the roof and the cap and lap non sagging sealants on the rest.  I hate Dicor products. Nothing but a dirt magnet. All my sealant is damn near black. On the roof where it can’t be seen is no big deal but the rest makes your rig look like a pile of. So once again I need to remove old sealant and start over. Hopefully Geocel is a better product.

Anyone know of an easier way to pull the old caulking. Razor etc is risky to doing damage. Would mineral spirits or goo gone for caulking work?

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Re: Exterior silicone
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2022, 11:09:00 am »
Back to the OP's mold question.   

I have never experienced anything like that and I wonder out loud a question.   Why wouldn't you just take a 25% or so solution of bleach and carefully apply small amounts with an artist brush, leave it there for thirty minutes or so and then flush it with flesh water?   Is it concern that the bleach would hurt the finish?   If you flushed it out after a short period of time then used microfiber cloth or soft brush to remove the mold I wonder if that might work.   

I would not be afraid to try that in a small and hopefully inconspicuous area to see what happens. 

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Re: Exterior silicone
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2022, 11:47:25 am »
I would not be afraid to try that in a small and hopefully inconspicuous area to see what happens.
That is an excellent suggestion to experiment trying.
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« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2022, 12:21:45 pm »
I contacted PC a few years ago on what to use. They told me they use Dicor. 502 self leveling for the roof and the cap and lap non sagging sealants on the rest.  I hate Dicor products. Nothing but a dirt magnet. All my sealant is damn near black. On the roof where it can’t be seen is no big deal but the rest makes your rig look like a pile of. So once again I need to remove old sealant and start over. Hopefully Geocel is a better product.

Anyone know of an easier way to pull the old caulking. Razor etc is risky to doing damage. Would mineral spirits or goo gone for caulking work?

Get 100 because they break very easily.

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Re: Exterior silicone
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2022, 06:51:05 am »
Tried 100% bleach on an area.  Applied with a Qtip.  Didn't work.

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Re: Exterior silicone
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2022, 10:26:15 am »
Cal, Thanks for the tip.  Regular razor is too problematic in digging in or cutting parts.  If these are not as sharp they might work

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Re: Exterior silicone
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2022, 08:11:35 am »
I used those plastic razor blades to remove what once was clear film off a different vehicle.  Not sure you need a lubricant to scrape off slippery silicone, but I did remove the crusty material.  I used kerosene as my lubricant.
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