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Still LOOKING to buy your used Phoenix Cruiser !!!

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suzziq4u

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Still LOOKING to buy your used Phoenix Cruiser !!!
« on: March 10, 2021, 09:43:39 am »
Been looking since last year, but the covid has driven the prices up.
I have until JUNE to make a purchase.......
Anyone looking to sell their coach?
The shorter the better, I love the rear bathroom but 2nd choice would be rear kitchen.
Figured I would ask again ! (cheer)
Ready to be on the raod again !

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Re: Still LOOKING to buy your used Phoenix Cruiser !!!
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2021, 10:10:29 am »
What size/model are you looking for?  Any specific year(s).

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Re: Still LOOKING to buy your used Phoenix Cruiser !!!
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2021, 10:53:16 am »
Sue, send me a private message if interested, model and location in my profile.  Thanks

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Re: Still LOOKING to buy your used Phoenix Cruiser !!!
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2021, 07:56:55 pm »
A 'lil more information......My IDEAL  cruiser would be a 2100, but could also do a 2350 or 2351.

I would love to find one WITHOUT a slide out. (Very few out there....I know..)
Age is not super important as long as it has service records and decent mileage.

I know that SOMEBODY out there has a rig that is just sitting,,,,,so why not sell it to me ? to me ?
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Ron Dittmer

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Re: Still LOOKING to buy your used Phoenix Cruiser !!!
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2021, 08:50:10 pm »
The floor plan in that 2005 ad is incorrect.  The fridge is NOT inside the slide out which was introduced around 2010.

The 2005 also has one house battery and no whole-house inverter.  I hear you can install two batteries in the battery compartment, but only if they are 12V AGM batteries that do NOT require any maintenance.  To make it work, the battery tray must be removed, hence maintenance-free is a "must".

The balance of that 2005 is all great, nearly identical to a new 2021, so it will be all about "condition" and "miles driven".  I personally am not concerned of the miles.

Being built on a 2004 or 2005 E350 chassis, unless a previous owner installed one, the chassis lacks a rear stabilizer bar, so you will certainly want to install a heavy duty one.  They are not expensive and many handy people install the bar them self.  I personally would also replace the inadequate front stabilizer bar with a heavy duty one.  With 73,000 miles, it's end links are likely worn away anyways.  Another suspension improvement would be to have heavy duty Bilstein shocks, and also a heavy duty steering stabilizer.   You might get lucky and discover that the PC you buy will have these things applied already.

Again, all can be done on your driveway with basic tools and no need to jack up the motor home except each front corner when replacing front shocks.  Shopping around for good deals, you might get everything for less than $1,300.  Once done, your PC will drive rock solid on the open road.  If you can't install them yourself, the ease of installation is a reflection that most any service center can help you including your trusted mechanic.  He won't need a special motor home facility with a special motor home lift.  He can install everything outside on a nice day.  The only question would be if he is willing.

As always, assume posted prices are "asking" prices, not "locked-in" prices.  Good negotiating skills yield good results.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2021, 08:10:17 am by Ron Dittmer »
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Re: Still LOOKING to buy your used Phoenix Cruiser !!!
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2021, 05:13:38 am »
Hi Suzie

If you are still looking to replace your 2300/2301 here’s another Dynamax twin.
https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2003-Dynamax-Corp-CARRI-GO-5015574835
Goin' where the wind goes...

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Ron Dittmer

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Re: Still LOOKING to buy your used Phoenix Cruiser !!!
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2021, 08:12:49 am »
A 'lil more information......My IDEAL  cruiser would be a 2100, but could also do a 2350 or 2351.

I would love to find one WITHOUT a slide out. (Very few out there....I know..)
Age is not super important as long as it has service records and decent mileage.
Hey, our 2007 2350 has no slide out, 40,000 miles, stored indoors, still like new, heavy duty suspension upgrades and piles of other improvements......but I don't think you'd want to pay so much for it.  :lol
« Last Edit: March 11, 2021, 08:15:26 am by Ron Dittmer »
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Re: Still LOOKING to buy your used Phoenix Cruiser !!!
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2021, 09:47:19 am »
As usual, THANK YOU for all the great information !!!
Ron, send me an IM with details......you never know !!!!  (Are you looking to buy a new one?)
Love the idea of buying from a ONE ONLY Owner ....so send me a price???
Not having a slide out would be perfect for me.....

The Dynamax Carri-go has a great floor plan....just a bit concerned about the age and possible how it was
cared for?  Mileage is low......but many things to investigate for how much $$$$ would have to be put into it.

Keep the info coming..... I will travel to get to the coach I want......   >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(
Ready to be on the raod again !

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Re: Still LOOKING to buy your used Phoenix Cruiser !!!
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2021, 10:37:23 am »
You won't find a better cared for rig than Ron's, I'd bet.  2o2  It would be worth top dollar IMHO. (PS I think he might still need new tires.) roflol

I'm curious about your and Ron's dislike for slide-outs...I too never thought I'd like one until I had one.  No problems so far, and the two dogs and the cat sure like the extra floor space. The added weight likely isn't much more than a Great Pyrenees and the Ford doesn't even notice it. (exactly)

Dougn
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Re: Still LOOKING to buy your used Phoenix Cruiser !!!
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2021, 05:32:49 pm »
Hey Doug  ((((((((((((((waving furiously from Texas ))))))))))))))))))))..... I too think his coach would be EXTREMELY well cared for
with all the bells and whistles added.......(what more could a gal want?)
I am guessing he has no intention on actually selling his coach.....but hope he will contact me.

On the slide out..........I have never had a coach with a slide-out, so it is not something I would miss.
To me, it just adds more weight to the coach, and I have heard several nightmare problems that have
happened, even while traveling.
I have owned a  36' Damon class A,  A coach house class B Platinum, and a Phoenix Cruiser 21 RB.

My favorite is the PC.....so I am ready for another one.  Can't miss something you never had, right?
Ready to be on the raod again !

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Ron Dittmer

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Re: Still LOOKING to buy your used Phoenix Cruiser !!!
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2021, 01:21:09 am »
Whoa, whoa, hold your horses, I was just kidding.  :)  I am flattered though.  :)  We are not selling our PC.  Yes it needs new tires followed by a wheel alignment, and I am strongly leaning on including new Alcoa wheels.  It is also time to go through all the chassis fluids, flushing brake lines, cooling system, transmission, and differential.

We made our PC irreplaceable.  Over the years, we made it just the way we want it and it works exceptionally well for us considering our travel style.  We don't want to mess with a very good thing.

The argument against having a slide out is a long list of little things that most people consider non-issues.  This is what comes to mind for our model 2350 seen by CLICKING HERE

- costs roughly $5000 extra
- adds roughly 500 pounds
- a significant sacrifice to cabinet and dinette storage, CLICK HERE TO REVIEW
- adds complexity with potential for reliability issues over time
- requires regular maintenance to seals/gaskets and mechanisms
- increases inside temps on hot days, and decreases inside temps on cold days, from air leaks to less insulation to more volume of interior to heat and cool
- slide-less is more quiet when sleeping in noisy places
- can leak during windy rain storms, causing floor rot
- can rattle and wind-whistle when driving
- over-all structural integrity of the house can be compromised with age and miles driven, the bigger the slide out, the bigger the risk of roof sag
- when bringing in a slide out, bugs & spiders, pine needles, grime, and water come in with it.
- a significant amount of water that made it's way on the slide out roof from a wind-driven rain, will be brought into the house and shower down when braking hard
- the house has a huge box inside when traveling, impacting the "travel" experience

A slide out is great if you need the extra floor space.  Many people require more room for various reasons, especially those who bring their dogs on trips.  But if you travel alone or with a companion and both of you are not terribly over-weight, then the extra floor space is not nearly as important.
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Re: Still LOOKING to buy your used Phoenix Cruiser !!!
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2021, 02:09:30 am »
O.T. - does anyone know, or would venture to guess how many  model 2100 , 2350 , and 2400  PC’s have been built in 18 years? I’ll take a SWAG  and say < 250 of each.
Goin' where the wind goes...

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Re: Still LOOKING to buy your used Phoenix Cruiser !!!
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2021, 02:30:30 am »
O.T. - does anyone know, or would venture to guess how many  model 2100 , 2350 , and 2400  PC’s have been built in 18 years? I’ll take a SWAG  and say < 250 of each.
It would be interesting to know.

I would guess that model 2350 is most popular followed by 2100, and then 2400 coming in last.  There seems to be a lot of 2350s out there, though I am not certain of it.  Slide-less 2350s, 2351s, 2551s, and 2552s are rare because they are special-ordered that way.  I can't imagine a 2100 or 2400 without a slide out because of the requirement for sleeping arrangements.
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2021, 08:44:53 pm »
 :-D I was pretty sure you were just kidding about selling your coach.....but I had to at least try Ron !  :'(
I do appreciate all the other info on why I prefer to NOT have a slide out, so Thank you.

So, the previous conversation kind of tells me that this will become a real hunt since so few were
actually made.

So, a question on The dynaMax.....are they really a tin?
Are they built as well as the PC ?
I noticed they stop making them in 2005.....also noticed that the
nada price is pretty low on them too.....

Any info ya'll can provide is sincerely appreciated.
Ready to be on the raod again !