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Grill storage / grill reccs
« on: January 23, 2021, 04:26:35 pm »
The plan is my new 3100 will roll off the line in about a month.  Curious to know what grill people use the most and where they store it.  It feels like the rear drawer is the most logical place.  I’d like to shop some of the show deals but don’t know which ones work the best.  I have to admit I’m a Weber fan but storage is key. 

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Re: Grill storage / grill reccs
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2021, 05:01:24 pm »
This 100% stainless Nexgrill and other similar brands look interesting.  Home Depot and Lowes have their own flavors.  I advise to study how well the legs fold up for compact storage.


Our now old Coleman portable here continues to serve us well.  I like cooking on the wrought iron grate.  We also bought the separate accessory storage bag which was a good decision.  I don't know if this grill is still available.
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Re: Grill storage / grill reccs
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2021, 09:02:43 pm »
I was pleasantly surprised to find that my Coleman Roadtrip Grill fit in the drawer nicely. It does take up most of the drawer.
https://www.campingworld.com/coleman-roadtrip-classic-grill-blue-35188.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAr6-ABhAfEiwADO4sfRhsBfPGLNsh9I5zPI75XntW9ZuWTsFkV0OGGiO5S1QRMjIHkF4XrRoCRrwQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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Re: Grill storage / grill reccs
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2021, 09:26:18 pm »
When I cook outside, I'm stuck on charcoal or wood. I use this Weber Go-Anywhere charcoal grill, they also make a propane one that looks to be the same size if you prefer. It fits easily on the shelf above the drawer. Very good air flow control, close the vents to snuff the charcoal.

https://www.weber.com/US/en/grills/portable-grills/go-anywhere-series/121020.html

I use a charcoal lighting chimney that just fits inside the grill. One sheet of newspaper, no gas-taste-lighter fluid needed.

https://www.amazon.com/Weber-7429-Rapid-Chimney-Starter/dp/B07B5BHKDZ

But those gas grills look pretty convenient, especially the Road-Trip...might have to adopt new-school.
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Re: Grill storage / grill reccs
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2021, 07:54:58 am »
We use a Cuisinart Grillster.  The legs fold and it easily fits in the slide out drawer.  We used to have a Weber Q that also fit back there, but only after removing the top (two hinge pins to pull out) but that made it a messy job to take out and put back in.

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Re: Grill storage / grill reccs
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2021, 10:07:51 am »
The plan is my new 3100 will roll off the line in about a month.  Curious to know what grill people use the most and where they store it.  It feels like the rear drawer is the most logical place.  I’d like to shop some of the show deals but don’t know which ones work the best.  I have to admit I’m a Weber fan but storage is key.

I have a 2019 3100.  I carry a Weber Q100 in the big drawer on the passenger side along with my grilling tools and other outdoor stuff.  Weber has renamed it to Q1000, I think.  Anyway, it is the smallest of the Q series.  The lid is easily removed by removing a couple of cotter pins and pulling out the pins that hold the lid to the body...quick and simple.   I also had PC USA add a quick connect to my propane tank, but I dont like getting on my knees under the slide, turning off the gas, hooking it all up, etc.  The little green bottles are too costly, especially if one grills a lot.  I found a small (10 pound?) refillable propane tank at Ace Hdwe.  Although it was 50 bucks, I bought it and love it.  I carry one little green disposable tank in case the other one runs dry.  YMMV

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Re: Grill storage / grill reccs
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2021, 02:40:00 pm »
We use a Napoleon TQ285 portable travel grill that easily stores,  in an upright position,  in the outside passenger back cabinet of our 2910D.   We also purchased a 5 pound refillable propane tank that fits along side the grill in the back outside cabinet.   We keep a few extra of the 1 pound Coleman propane cylinders just in case.   What I don't like about these 1 pound Coleman cylinders is that they are not "technically" refillable and once they are empty what do you do with them?  throw them away?  attempt to recycle them?  and where can they be recycled?

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Re: Grill storage / grill reccs
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2021, 05:01:08 pm »
What I don't like about these 1 pound Coleman cylinders is that they are not "technically" refillable and once they are empty what do you do with them?  throw them away?  attempt to recycle them?  and where can they be recycled?
That bothers me too using them, still we use them.

Some years ago after using a one pound disposable propane tank, it leaked very slowly after disconnecting it.  The sealing pin was faulty.  It was a scary discovery to say the least.  God protected us, making sure I noticed the slight odor.  Needless to say that ever since, I blow off the top of a used canister and smell it carefully before putting it away.
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Re: Grill storage / grill reccs
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2021, 12:28:51 am »
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attempt to recycle them?  and where can they be recycled?
They are supposed to come with a green plastic cap that has a pin that opens the valve.  So after they are empty you are supposed to push that cap on, pin down.  That opens the valve and 'proves' that they are empty.  Then put them in recycle / garbage depending on your local rules.

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Re: Grill storage / grill reccs
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2021, 08:48:17 am »
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attempt to recycle them?  and where can they be recycled?
They are supposed to come with a green plastic cap that has a pin that opens the valve.  So after they are empty you are supposed to push that cap on, pin down.  That opens the valve and 'proves' that they are empty.  Then put them in recycle / garbage depending on your local rules.

That green cap with the pin must be a state rule, I have never had one come with a cap like that.   Green plastic cap that slips over the threads, yes, but no pin.   

In addition, every one I have ever had has a Schroder valve (tire valve) near the top that you can press on the valve pin to insure it's empty.

It's against federal law to refill them but many people do it anyway at home with a special valve adapter that's easily available.


Whoops... That is, "Schrader" valve above... Not Schroder valve
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Re: Grill storage / grill reccs
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2021, 02:26:00 pm »
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attempt to recycle them?  and where can they be recycled?
They are supposed to come with a green plastic cap that has a pin that opens the valve.  So after they are empty you are supposed to push that cap on, pin down.  That opens the valve and 'proves' that they are empty.  Then put them in recycle / garbage depending on your local rules.

That green cap with the pin must be a state rule, I have never had one come with a cap like that.   Green plastic cap that slips over the threads, yes, but no pin.   

In addition, every one I have ever had has a Schroder valve (tire valve) near the top that you can press on the valve pin to insure it's empty.

It's against federal law to refill them but many people do it anyway at home with a special valve adapter that's easily available.


Whoops... That is, "Schrader" valve above... Not Schroder valve

That valve, while looking like a regular Schrader valve, is actually a pressure release valve. If you press on the stem, it will not release pressure like a tire. You actually have to pull it out with a small pair of needle-nose pliers or similar.  You can use a removal tool and take it out, but only for disposal.  I understand it may mess with the release pressure removing/installing it. Not sure, I use the needle-nose pliers. . When refilling, the liquid propane escaping from the opened valve indicates full.  2o2

RE: green cap -    ""In 2009, The Coleman Company included a Green Key® tool with each of
our propane canisters. We used the Green Key® program as a way to
increase empty propane canister recycling. Unfortunately, the program
was not accepted by many recycling agencies across the country. As a
result, the Green Key® tool will no longer be included with the purchase of
our Coleman® propane cylinders. ""  https://www.maricopa.gov/DocumentCenter/View/3602/Disposal-Instructions-for-Coleman-Propane-Cylinders---Green-Key-PDF?bidId=


Also - pretty sure that refilling the 1lb is legal, the federal law prohibits transport when refilled.  So if you completely empty them after refilling, they are legal to transport again. But then again... a refilled bottle can look just like a new one.  (WH) Not sure how they would tell the difference, unless the bottles are beat up. And if they are looking beat up, scratched or rusted, DONT REFILL THEM.  (exactly)


There are a few warnings about wall thickness and lack of bleed valve that can put them in the 'dangerous after refill' to many.   If you really want to refill/transport 1lb cylinders right and legal, get one of these -

https://www.amazon.com/Flame-King-Refillable-Propane-Cylinder/dp/B07F9LCYRT




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Re: Grill storage / grill reccs
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2021, 03:46:56 pm »
Volkemon,

Yes, it is unlawful for a licensed propane refilling station/distributor to refill portable tanks that don't have an OPD valve.   Of course, if you refill it yourself, that law doesn't come into effect so Federal DOT regulations prohibit their transportation in interstate commerce.

I was the police department's hazmat liason to the fire department's hazmat response units and also investigated illegal dumping of hazmat.  Essentially that meant that except for Arson Investigations, I was their investigator.  The fire department folks had no arrest or investigation authority except for arson.

Never in doing that, for several years, was anyone ever charged with, arrested, investigated or brought to my attention for transportation of refilled 1 lb propane bottles.  At least not in Denver.  roflol (WH)



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Re: Grill storage / grill reccs
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2021, 03:57:14 pm »
The plan is my new 3100 will roll off the line in about a month.  Curious to know what grill people use the most and where they store it.  It feels like the rear drawer is the most logical place.  I’d like to shop some of the show deals but don’t know which ones work the best.  I have to admit I’m a Weber fan but storage is key.

I bet PC would add a gas quick connect on the coach curb side for not much money, solve the canister dilemma. If I go gas grill I'd T off of the coach stove gas supply. I bet others have done this already. Might be cheaper than refilling properly, safer than improperly.

(tho I do like the t-shirt that simply says "Safety Second") roflol :lol
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Re: Grill storage / grill reccs
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2021, 04:34:15 pm »
We raised the shelf to fit the small Weber.

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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2021, 04:35:36 pm »
And added remote quick connect.