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First oil change.
« on: April 13, 2020, 08:30:12 pm »
Hi: Was surprised yesterday when I started my 2552 that the "Oil Change Required" message was displayed on the dash.
I believe I have about 1,245mi on it, basically drove it home from the factory and a few short day trips. There are about 7 hours of idling registered as well.

Was planning to do one soon anyways but does this seem normal?

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Re: First oil change.
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2020, 08:34:03 am »
What does Ford manual say for first change. Probably 4K miles. They should have instructions in the Ford manual how to reset this message.



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Re: First oil change.
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2020, 08:39:39 am »
We have a few 2010+ trucks in the fleet, and they seem to have no rhyme or reason to oil change intervals. The 2013 Colorado, same driver and route since new, can vary from 6000 to 9000 miles between changes, and one at 12K when I was sick of waiting for the light. For the cost of a change, I would do so. Reset, and see how long it takes to come back on. It may have some 'garbage' data on it from manufacture.

https://www.yourmechanic.com/article/understanding-ford-service-indicator-lights-by-brent-minderler   

https://www.autoserviceprofessional.com/article/102480/can-we-trust-oil-life-monitors


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Re: First oil change.
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2020, 11:14:21 am »
Jim,

I have just over 1800 miles on mine that I picked up in August and have not got that message yet. I wish this was something I could do myself but not allowed with our HOA, I had an appointment then cancelled it when the "Stay in Place" order was given. I will make another appointment as soon as it gets a little safer to get it done. I will have them do a complete inspection of the chassis while they have it.

My rear speakers will be delivered today and hope to get them installed this weekend, I will let you know how it goes.

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Re: First oil change.
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2020, 02:28:35 pm »
My *guess* is that it's based on usage, that is short trips vs longer trips, stop & start vs highway, high idle times vs essentially none, engine load, etc.

My son had a Ford pickup and the change intervals changed due to his usage.

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Re: First oil change.
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2020, 07:49:31 pm »
The manual just states 7500 mi and doesn't doesn't say anything special about first change.
I was planning to do one around 2500 mi anyways but now will do it sooner.
The reported 7 hours of idling seemed kind of high to me. Iv'e only idled it a little over an hour since getting it home.
Wonder if it can sense a change in oil pressure possibly due to clog somewhere? not sure how smart it actually is.
Oh well another thing to add to the to-do list.

Frank, good luck with the speakers! I'm sure they will sound great. Or at least a whole lot better!  :-D

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Re: First oil change.
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2020, 10:29:42 am »
There is no way I would let a manual or some internal sensor determine when I should get my oil changed. As an example my smart car manual stated Mobil one at 10,000 miles intervals. The problem is I send in a sample to find out when I should change and at 5,000 miles the oil was close to end of service. My Fusion the tests show its time to change at 6500.  On my motorhome running synthetic pulling a toad that’s 6,000 miles. Now that I’m going to be pulling a heavier toad I’ll send in a sample at 5,000 to see where I’m at. If 5,000 is good then I’m good to go.  Testing labs like Black stone will send you the sample bottle free of charge, the test costs roughly $25.

I haven’t tested my Jeep yet as I haven’t driven it enough. Once I can run it 4-5000 miles I’ll run a test.  Typically I have the information I need with one test.


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Re: First oil change.
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2020, 11:17:28 am »
Hi: Was surprised yesterday when I started my 2552 that the "Oil Change Required" message was displayed on the dash.
I believe I have about 1,245mi on it, basically drove it home from the factory and a few short day trips. There are about 7 hours of idling registered as well.

Was planning to do one soon anyways but does this seem normal?
Just curious...what was the date of manufacture for your chassis? Is it a year old? Wondering if there is some sort of calendar running in the computer. Always heard to change RV oil yearly if mileage is not met.
Riding the fine line between bravery and stupidity since infancy.

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Re: First oil change.
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2020, 07:45:39 pm »
Holly, you might be right! Just checked and the build date from Ford is 5 / 2019 so only a couple of weeks away. And that is when the label was generated, Pretty sure the ECM would start counting the first time it is powered on so likely befor the truck was finished.

Joseph, in this case I think I will do my oil change based on the warning but will have it checked as well to start getting an idea of how often it will need to be changed. Will check out Blackstone Labs, thanks!

Couple of other things I learned while poking around looking forthe Ford build date;
I DO have an RVIA sticker under my hood.
I DO have a Trick-L-Start installed from the factory  :)(:

Question about the Trik-L-Start, does PC wire them on always on line or are they connected through a relay initiated by the white switch on the dash?





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Re: First oil change.
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2020, 07:55:32 pm »
Oops, sorry Doug. Got 2 Lucky confused with 2 Frazzled.

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Re: First oil change.
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2020, 10:10:37 pm »
Jim,

Below are three quotes from the first link posted by Volkeman in his earlier post; note quote number 3.  Looks like Doug's (and your) speculation may be valid.

"There are currently four different versions of OLM being used and each has its own operational characteristics. Some OLM’s are more sophisticated, or intelligent, than others, but they will typically take into consideration the factors that can affect the engine oil life in both a positive and negative way."

"General Motors (GM) started using this type of OLM (GM calls it GM Oil-Life System, or GMOLS) back in 1998 and based the need for an oil change heavily on the number of engine revolutions and operating temperature."

"Ford’s Intelligent Oil Life Monitor (or IOLM) is also a software-based OLM that calculates when an oil change is required — very similar to the GMOLS, but the Ford system incorporates a timer that will turn on the oil change required light after one year has passed."

Also, on the Trik-L-Start.  Mine (installed by Phoenix), is wired directly on-line.  If I cut the main house battery switch, it kills the feed to the Trik-L-Start; otherwise, it gets a constant feed from the house batteries.

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Re: First oil change.
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2020, 08:43:22 pm »
Thanks Mike! Hope all is well with you.

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Re: First oil change.
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2020, 06:53:09 pm »
Ok came back to this thread to find out when it was that my last oil change occurred.
Why?
My Oil Change Required light is on again!

So last time I figured it came on because the chassis was about a year old even though I only had a little over 1200 mi on it.
I did the O.C. and reset the OLMS

Now just about 6 months and with only about 3400 miles on the odometer, it is on again.

Can't for the life of me  come up with a good reason.
Unless some goofball (me) adjusted the oil life percentage down by mistake while fiddling with the onboard Information Display.
Don't remember doing it, but stranger things have happened.

Only other thing is it is showing 14 hours of idling. Think that could affect it?

Any ideas?
Thanks, Jim G.

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Re: First oil change.
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2020, 07:51:32 pm »
Rather than worrying about when the light comes on why not send in a sample when you change. That will tell you accurately if the oil is done or longevity left.  It’s worth piece of mind in my book. You won’t need to check every time. This time your at 3400 miles . If they say your good to go longer next time you try 5,000. A couple of tests and you know with piece of mind and forget the sensor.

As an example my smart car manual said change every 10,000 and that’s when the sensor would trip. They advised to use Mobil one oil which I did. At 5,000 miles the lab test revealed the oil was at the end of life. No way would I go till the sensor went off in that case. So I changed every 5,000 miles and reset the sensor.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2020, 09:23:37 pm by Joseph »

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Re: First oil change.
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2020, 09:06:41 am »
How much does a oil “check” cost in lieu of just going out and buying a jug of oil/filter and do a change?