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My Brother Wants A NO-Slide 30 Foot PC With Rear Walk-Around Queen Bed

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Ron Dittmer

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Hi everyone,

My brother and his wife own a tiny 20 foot long 1998 Starflyte.  They've had it for many years, now with piles of miles.  They travel frequently, even more now that they are retired.  They want to make one last RV purchase and use it up like the last one.  They want something much more spacious and comfortable.  Three of their main priorities are
- no slideouts
- rear walk-around bed
- have a booth dinette and couch placed across from each other
- affordability

My brother has his eye on this Coachman Pursuit 27XPS which he says he can buy brand new for $65,000.  It offers the perfect floorplan in the length he wants.
https://www.coachmenrv.com/class-a-motorhomes/pursuit/27XPS/4717

They would consider spending some amount more for a new Phoenix Cruiser but none of the floor plans meet their need, and the purchase price is also concerning.  I have suggested he call Phoenix and see what they can do.

In my mind, start with model 2910D.  Delete the bedroom slide out and all cabinets on the passenger side to make the bedroom equivalent to the Coachman.  BUT, they can increase indoor and outdoor storage by building the bed a bit higher to create a captain bed with drawers under the foot-half, and a large outdoor storage compartment under the head-half.

The front slideout might be a challenge because of the galley.  I am not sure gaining the 8" of wall space from deleting the slideout will offer enough room to install a standard galley from one of the smaller PC models, but it seems feasible.

The passenger side offers lots of wall space for a very comfortable booth dinette.  I also suggested to consider reducing the size of the dinette booths by a few inches to increase the floor space between them and the couch.  It may also be required to fully recline the couch.

Price is a big factor for my brother.  Deleting the two slideouts should knock off around $10,000.  Going paintless is another savings.  Given no slideouts and being totally white (maybe even without thermal glass) I think it will work having one roof a/c unit, and 30amp service.  Delete the sanicon for "gravity dump only" should lower the price further.  My brother might opt to delete all awnings.  I told him to call Phoenix and see what they can do. 

My proposed cost reduction changes to a 2910D will bring some features to that of an entry level rig of another brand.  But in-general, on the surface, the Pursuit 27XPS at only 29 feet long and $65,000 with larger capacities and chassis capability is going be hard to compete with.

Here is the current 2010D floorplan. at 30'-10" long


Here is the $65,000 Coachman Pursuit 27XPS at 29'-0" long


I encourage others here to share their thoughts.
Ron Dittmer
« Last Edit: January 24, 2020, 09:37:23 am by Ron Dittmer »
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hutch42

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Re: My Brother Wants A NO-Slide 30 Foot PC With Rear Walk-Around Queen Bed
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2020, 11:42:48 am »
Ron

He could go back to the roots of Class C RV's, if hes looking at alternatives.       http://www.lazydaze.com/index2.htm   The 31 footer looks close to his needs.  The down side is they are a bit above his budget and an 18 month wait to get a new one.   The upside is there are a few used out there.  You'll never find a 4-5 year old one used.  They dont exist.  Most sold on owners forum within a day or two.  The older one will still last 10-15 years.

Hutch

PS   I take that back about used Lazy Daze.  Here is a once every few years deal that just came up.  2018 model.     https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2018-Lazy-Daze-31-ISLAND-BED-5011016548

This "used" price list has been developed over the last 40 years. (cheer)*  Has usually been within 1-2% of actual.

*Can you imagine any business that would have anything like this...let alone an RV maker 2o2

« Last Edit: January 24, 2020, 12:55:11 pm by hutch42 »

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CalCruiser

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Re: My Brother Wants A NO-Slide 30 Foot PC With Rear Walk-Around Queen Bed
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2020, 02:36:35 pm »
Ron- Have you seen this rear island bed model TS2390 Transit? I believe  this model was only offered in 2017 and 2018. I have no first hand knowledge or opinion of this brand, but if he can find one with diesel power perhaps it might be worth a look?

https://youtu.be/kai3pFxVRWEIf

« Last Edit: January 24, 2020, 07:00:00 pm by CalCruiser »
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Ron Dittmer

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  • Slide: No
  • IntColor: Cherry Green&Gray
  • ExtColor: Full Body Gray
  • Location: N/E Illinois
Re: My Brother Wants A NO-Slide 30 Foot PC With Rear Walk-Around Queen Bed
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2020, 11:35:18 pm »
Hutch, My brother ruled out every conventional class C because of the limited sight-seeing.
Cal, They ruled out a diesel because of his wife's asthma.  She triggers from diesel fumes.
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