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Re: Liquid Springs
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2020, 07:35:57 pm »
Steve,

My gut feeling:
I think new engine will be turbo to help you over the hills. Hoping v8 will provide a smidge better gas mileage.
My problem is that, based on my experience buying new model of cars first year out, the first year usually has kinks that need to be ironed out. By year 3 of a new engine all should be good.

Just my opinion.
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2020, 07:53:45 pm »
I think new engine will be turbo to help you over the hills. Hoping v8 will provide a smidge better gas mileage.
My problem is that, based on my experience buying new model of cars first year out, the first year usually has kinks that need to be ironed out. By year 3 of a new engine all should be good.

Just my opinion.
I would be very surprised if the new V8 will be turbo-charged, most especially for the E450.  But I agree 100% with RonJ over the rest of his statement.  Sometimes it takes even more than 3 years to get an engine right as was the case with the V10's spark plug ejection issue.
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2020, 09:02:31 pm »
Ron
Won't the v8 be underpowered if it doesn't have turbo?
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Re: Liquid Springs
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2020, 10:45:09 pm »
Hi RonJ,

I read the 7.3L-V8 horse power and torque numbers are a little higher than the 2-valve V10 it is replacing.  I don't know how it compares to the 3-valve V10 version installed in the class-A chassis.

The 3-valve version is not used in the E350/E450 because the heads are too big to fit.  That being the case, I wonder if the same issues will apply when trying to fit a turbo in such the same E450 confined space.  If they get it all to fit, maybe the extra heat will be an issue.  Whether it is a physical limitation or cooling limitation, I would be very surprised and impressed if Ford managed a turbo in the E450.  Also considering the limited production E450 cut-away and stripped chassis now, a 7.3L-V8 turbo E450 would surely surprise me.

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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2020, 02:15:41 am »
There’s  a ton of info on the web regarding the new 7.3 Godzilla V8.  A naturally  aspirated Godzilla with only basic mods  made 600hp.

All the reviews I found for the new engine were  F250 Super Duty pickup tests,  except for this one.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aEkfiqHi8uY
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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2020, 08:04:56 am »
VERY interesting video. Thanks for sharing that.
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7.3 V-8 vs known V-10
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2020, 06:52:02 pm »
Steve,

My gut feeling:
...snip... My problem is that, based on my experience buying new model of cars first year out, the first year usually has kinks that need to be ironed out. By year 3 of a new engine all should be good.
Just my opinion.

That's what I'm thinking too.  New needs to be proven.  The V-10 Is WELL proven, and to order may not be the best idea until we have some experience with it. 

I will have to take a look at the Video posted above.
Thanks for your replies,
It all helps,
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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2020, 10:05:28 am »
No idea but I wonder how soon this new power plant will even be available in the E450? I’m also in the corner of I wouldn’t consider it until there’s been some real consumer feedback.  All this is assuming Ford makes it through this economic mess. They weren’t in the best shape before this hit with a lot riding on the new Bronco.

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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2020, 12:24:45 pm »
According to the specs on this website it’s what you get  unless you buy a leftover 2019. It would be a real shame if PC’s business took  a hit because someone is afraid of  change. Ford’s truck business is way too important for a screw up like Boeing’s. There’s no indication that they cut corners testing or rushed it into production.

The 7.3 V8 was engineered  to get better fuel mileage than the 6.8 V10 by making  peak hp at 3600 rpm vs 4100,  with a flat torque curve.  It will be interesting to see some real world motorhome tests, not just the F250 SD reviews  that are everywhere now. Maybe someone will order a new PC and do a thorough write-up here with some useful information.
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« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2020, 12:42:08 pm »
It sounds good.
I too would like to see a detailed review.
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« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2020, 09:30:58 pm »
It’s not the fear of change that may hit PC or any other builder. If anything it will be the economy.  Currently  it’s being destroyed and sadly we’re doing it to ourselves.

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« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2020, 11:16:13 pm »
So true!
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