Phoenix Cruiser on the cover of Motorhome Magazine

A Class 'C' with Class is how author Bob Livingston describes the Phoenix Cruiser 2910T reviewed in the April edition of Motorhome Magazine.  Bob states that 'value' is the operative word with a factory direct price of as much as $40,000 less than a comparable Sprinter based model.

Bob says "The Phoenix Cruiser is more than a pretty face in an RV park.  Sleek lines enhanced by full-body paint, the lower profile and longer wheelbase are not just afterthoughts.  Company engineers set out to build a Class C that would handle better than most and banked on aerodynamics with curved walls and roofline, a shorter rear overhang and a 93 inch body to keep the motorhome well planted on the roadways."

The review is five pages long with lots of pictures and goes into lots of detail on the coach.  There is also a side bar on the new Liquid Springs option which the reviewer felt was worth the price tag calling the 2910T with Liquid Springs "a real driving machine".

A Class 'C' with Class is how author Bob Livingston describes the Phoenix Cruiser 2910T reviewed in the April edition of Motorhome Magazine.  Bob states that 'value' is the operative word with a factory direct price of as much as $40,000 less than a comparable Sprinter based model.

Bob says "The Phoenix Cruiser is more than a pretty face in an RV park.  Sleek lines enhanced by full-body paint, the lower profile and longer wheelbase are not just afterthoughts.  Company engineers set out to build a Class C that would handle better than most and banked on aerodynamics with curved walls and roofline, a shorter rear overhang and a 93 inch body to keep the motorhome well planted on the roadways."

The review is five pages long with lots of pictures and goes into lots of detail on the coach.  There is also a side bar on the new Liquid Springs option which the reviewer felt was worth the price tag calling the 2910T with Liquid Springs "a real driving machine".

I will look forward to reading that article.  I thought Bob Livingston retired(?)

Here's the article, for your reading pleasure. 
http://www.motorhome.com/top-stories/phoenix-cruiser-is-a-class-c-with-class/

That is a very complementary article.  That rig is real sharp looking too.  What a nice shot in the arm for Phoenix USA.

We longer term forum members all know this about the triple slide 2910T but I'll mention it for sake of new members considering one.

Model 2910T is the heaviest model Phoenix offers.  The three slide outs is where the extra weight comes from with each weighing between 400 and 600 pounds depending on it's width.  This model has significant storage and sleeping accommodations for 5 people.  Be very careful who and what you bring along.  With only 1040 pounds to work with, 5 people averaging 150 pounds leaves you with only 290 pounds for everything else.

For reference, Irene and I together weigh 310 pounds.  When we are loaded up for a trip, considering our physical bodies, a tank full of fresh water, our stuff and food, our total added weight is 1560 pounds.  I don't pack the kitchen sink either, pretty much taking just the basics with a rare exception or so.

I wonder if the "Liquid Spring" option increases the weight capability beyond Ford specs.  But the true Achillies Heal is the weight limit of the "E" rated tires with the usual risk of a tire blow-out.

Please do the math when considering a 2910T.  If not very careful, you will be over-loaded putting your family in harm's way.  And if you think the issue is a "Phoenix only" thing, that is far from the truth.  Over-loading is a very common problem with every brand of motor home in the 30 foot length and 3 slide outs.  But weight issues are not limited to the big class-Cs.  It is very serious matter on some small motor homes, for example ones built on the Dodge Promaster chassis which has single rear tires.  My point here is...know what you are getting into before you commit to buy.

Got to give credit to MH Magazine. All manufacturers should be required to publish  wet weight and ROCC data.

I always wonder about the typical 11030 GVWR Sprinter 25 ft Class C's with slide-outs. Ford Transit  Class C’s are limited too. The Winnebago Via/ Itasca Reyo class A Sprinter must be extremely  limited.

This is going to become a major issue when Ford discontinues the E- series chassis.
Drinking the ballast  won’t help.

Got to give credit to MH Magazine. All manufacturers should be required to publish  wet weight and ROCC data.

I always wonder about the typical 11030 GVWR Sprinter 25 ft Class C's with slide-outs. Ford Transit  Class C’s are limited too. The Winnebago Via/ Itasca Reyo class A Sprinter must be extremely  limited.

This is going to become a major issue when Ford discontinues the E- series chassis.
Drinking the ballast   won’t help.

I surely agree with you CalCruiser!

I wonder if the "Liquid Spring" option increases the weight capability beyond Ford specs.  But the true Achillies Heal is the weight limit of the "E" rated tires with the usual risk of a tire blow-out.

Not sure I follow that logic.. my 'E' range tires are rated 2680 single, 2470 dual.

Total weight capability of 15240 pounds... or almost 2 tons over my GVWR.

A bit less 'headroom' by axle..

5360 pounds rating for my 4600 rated front axle (760 extra)
9880 pounds rating for my 7800 rated rear axle  (2080 extra)

I dont see the inherent Achilles Heel. I see no danger of a blowout from overloading in design..

as always, correction welcome! luv to lern...


RE: liquid springs... neat tech, hate to imagine the out of warranty repair costs.  or what the failure mode would be. Leaf springs are very well 'proven' even with their limitations. I am familiar with hydraulic system accumulator failures, and they range from messy to deadly and messy.

Hi Volkemon,

Assuming your tire numbers are accurate, the 4 tires in the rear combined are rated for 9880 pounds.  My point was that the rear axle can see more than 9880 on the biggest of rigs with 3 slide outs "if" the owner isn't watching what and where his load is inside.

It does seem that with a longer wheel base scenario, those owners get concerned that the front tires get close to the max load.  I am referencing discussions on another forum, not this forum, not the 2019T.

My 2007 E350 PC-2350, I am very close to the max rating on the rear axle itself, not the tires.  It's different for us 2350/E350 owners with a chassis made prior to 2008.  It can become a science project determining load and weight distribution.  Each rig with and without a slide-out will have it's own numbers.  The 2551 and 2552 seem to be in great shape in that regards, having the right load and the right load distribution.  It could be that is why most of those owners don't feel the need to upgrade their stabilizer bars and all that.

Ron Dittmer

Might be interesting to see if ClearMotion takes off.  Which utilizes an add-on hydraulic
to shocks in order to anticipate the road surface and dampen the ride.  If it works, it
might turn out to be the poor man's answer to the more expensive options.