Build a PC is Back.....but

Well Zoooorby, the point in the pusher is still the same. Not having a spare is no way a deal breaker, people get by with out one all the time. IE , Many cars often high end don’t have any kind of spare.

Your comment on thin skinned is odd. He was kind actually, in no way acting thin skinned. Personally I looked at your posts as if the were posted by a Troll.  Are they or just a tude you carry as so many do it seems.   No matter really, just curious.  

Well Zoooorby, the point in the pusher is still the same. Not having a spare is no way a deal breaker, people get by with out one all the time. IE , Many cars often high end don’t have any kind of spare.

Your comment on thin skinned is odd. He was kind actually, in no way acting thin skinned. Personally I looked at your posts as if the were posted by a Troll.  Are they or just a tude you carry as so many do it seems.   No matter really, just curious.  

And why would I care if any "high end" car, truck, bus, motor-home, or my uncle's '48 deuce and a half flatbed Dodge doesn't have a spare tire? Its still stupid.

But after careful thought, I think I'm done here - its time to "flounce out". Its obvious that this forum and I aren't a good fit. See ya!

Well Zoooorby, the point in the pusher is still the same. Not having a spare is no way a deal breaker, people get by with out one all the time. IE , Many cars often high end don’t have any kind of spare.

Your comment on thin skinned is odd. He was kind actually, in no way acting thin skinned. Personally I looked at your posts as if the were posted by a Troll.  Are they or just a tude you carry as so many do it seems.   No matter really, just curious.  

Seriously, name calling? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Everyone is allowed to voice that opinion in a friendly, reasonable manner. So, everybody get over it! Some of us want a spare. Isn't it awesome we have that option? Some want twin beds, some want a single bed, some want a pull out couch. They each get to choose and nobody calls them names or argues to try to force them to agree that "My way is the only way". My way is my way. I like it. I'll share my reasons for it then let you choose what works best for you.

If you dont agree with someone's opinion you can say so... Nicely! Otherwise, ignore the posting.

Oh, I don't care about my neighborly rating so anyone that reads this and gets upset can feel free to slam me if it helps you burn off your stress.

Frazzled, sorry you saw it as name calling.  I simply asked a question. When someone looks gives the impression all they wish to do  is stir the pot and they only have very few posts it’s often some one trolling. I doubt there is a sight out there that’s doesn’t have it come across and in most cases there easy to spot just on their post count. There are also those that just have that kind of attitude, it’s in their makeup, not a bad day type of thing.  If its just there tude or a bad , you’ll read right past it with out much of a thought.


On the spare
It’s not about having a spare, I’m glad I have one but I wouldn’t pass up a good vehicle like the PC just because it doesn’t have one. I don’t find it stupid either that they don’ include one. Only because I’m not in the inner circle understanding why.  From a business or engineering stand point it may make good sense. I don’t know, but I do know it’s not a catostophic failure .

I said I'd flounce out, and I will, but I'll say I'm not intentionally trolling. I just have small tolerance for stupidity. My BS detector has a very low threshold, I'm increasingly becoming a curmudgeon in my old age and don't particularly care. I've been advised that there are a number here who apparently do indeed have "thin skins", and I don't have much truck with that either. As I said, its pretty obvious that this forum and I aren't a good fit; the culture here seems to be more like facebook (which I avoid like the plague and "you" should too) what with "neighborly" ratings and other fluff. I could say a lot more just because I'm a curmudgeon, but why put everyone - including myself - through that?

I'm glad PC still offers the spare, and again: Its nothing that can't be fixed with some angle iron and a welder!

Since angle iron and welder was brought up... too bad there isn't an option for a Real Rear bumper. I would opt for steel. Glass is way too flimsy and expensive to fix, and doesn't offer options for add ons(like tire carriers) or much protection. I see some coach manufacturers used to go with the molded rear ends but now have steel.
And I totally agree, PC needs to update what is standard equipment and what is an option. I know I would have spent a lot more money with them if I didn't have to guess at what they would do.
Doug

zorba,no need to opt out, I asked if you were a troll, as you know typical to see when one has very few posts. No big deal, really, I’m just up front in asking.  



In any event, stay or go, share your opinions or not.

Biglegmax, I’ve often wonderd or wished maybe that these units had a real bumper

If you look under the rear of PCs made since mid 2004 with the integrated spare tire, none have a real rear bumper.  The rear wall with the "Look Of A Rear Bumper" is a simple decoration.  A serious bumper with serious rear-end protection will add some serious weight.  If you plan to add a durable rear bumper, make sure it does not hang below the fiberglass because you will risk damaging it over issues with ground clearance while exiting gas stations and such.  Also be mindful when towing.  You will likely need to add a hitch extension to avoid contact between your extended bumper and tow while taking sharp turns.

It seems the ideal add-on bumper protection would be something made of aluminum supporting the decorative rear bumper from behind.  But the tail lights are there so it would require huge cutouts to clear them.

Ron , no doubt a good bumper would add some real weight. I guess seeing so many class C rigs with one has brought the thought.  I have to admit, I don’t recall seeing one that looked good.

Ron , no doubt a good bumper would add some real weight. I guess seeing so many class C rigs with one has brought the thought.  I have to admit, I don’t recall seeing one that looked good.

I agree with you. They typically don't look very attractive.  A very common one is the square aluminum tube with storage for the stinky slinky.  They stick out and often are bent up, I think damaged when backing up blindly.  That is why the back-up camera is very important along with a spotter.  We gotta watch out for those tall standing log bumpers commonly used in national parks where the first point of impact would be our fake rear bumper.