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« on: May 08, 2017, 09:30:25 am »
Last week i was speaking with a person at Freightliner Custom Chassis and we go into a  discussion pertaining to the new SC-2 chassis that is is being manafactured in Gaffney, SC at the FCC plant now (the M-2's are made in Mexico but may be moved to Gaffney as well).  The SC-2RV's are much lighter duty compared to the M-2's, SC-2RV has the 3000 Allison (M-2 has the 3200 Allison)  and the SC-2RV has the  ISB Cummins (M-2 uses the ISL-9 Cummins) but what is nice is the chassis is completely RV buildout ready with many very nice features that the Phoenix Cruiser folks and other manafacturers will really like....It was eluded to that Freightliner is anticipating perhaps the expected exit from the market of the Ford E-series and they want to fill the vacume with this new option?  The SC-2RV would sure address the over weight issues that some E-450's are expieriencing these days.  I am sure Kermit is working his majic to utilize this new chassis!  Thanks, RG
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2017, 09:37:15 am »
Man, Bob, that is fantastic news - a real answer to diesels in a smaller rig, but larger than the Sprinter...
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2017, 11:07:24 am »
This size chassis would really allow for expanded Class C floorplans without having to deal with over weight issues.  Class A sales are flat and Class C's are up and that is because people want the smaller coaches but do not want to give up the luxury aspects that the A's offer.  just my two cents.  Thanks, Ron
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2017, 01:08:55 pm »
Your post caught my curiosity so I searched the web for Freightliner SC-2 but couldn't find anything about it.  Could you post a link with all the details from Freightliner?
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2017, 02:30:44 pm »
Wish I could Ron but I can not find anything either.  There are several manafacturers (according to Freightliner) that are starting to use the chassis at this time...check out Renegade Valentia model, this is the first coach I have seen based on this chassis.  Ron G.
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2017, 02:37:49 pm »
North Trail RV in FL. has a new Valentia and one of the photos shows the dash layout that has 12 blank switch plates that would all tie into Freightliners muitlplex wiring system that allows for the use of extensive 'smart switches".   Looks like the chassis comes with the 3000 Allison and not the 2500.  I would guess it is a much cheaper chassis compared to the M2 and therefore would help with the Class C price points? 
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2017, 03:03:22 pm »
The SC chassis has been around in school bus application for a while but the RV designation is new.  With the SC-2RV chassis you as owner can be a memeber of the Freightliner Custom Chassis Club thatofffers some unique services and benefits that one can not get with the M2 chassis that is manafactured under a different Feightliner subsidiary....
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2017, 05:01:56 pm »
The Renegade Valencia is this......a Super C chassis.  Is this what you are talking about?
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2017, 05:09:57 pm »
Not exactly down sizing. The one in Fla is 38'.
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2017, 05:14:54 pm »
Ron, we would love a rig like that.  I think but not positive you can get them down to a 34 foot
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2017, 05:29:14 pm »
I agree with you Tom.  It redefines "Downsizing".  I can't see it as a direct replacement for the E450.  Just imagine a 2552 built on top of it.
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2017, 08:13:32 pm »
I was not implying a 2350 would be dropped on the SC2RV but I can see a nice 34' triple slide sitting on top of it!  Expand your imagination a little!  Thanks, Ron G.
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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2017, 09:16:49 pm »
Quote from: ragoodsp on May 08, 2017, 08:13:32 pm
I was not implying a 2350 would be dropped on the SC2RV but I can see a nice 34' triple slide sitting on top of it!  Expand your imagination a little!  Thanks, Ron G.
Okay, I get it!  :)

I thought you were suggesting the SC2RV was a replacement for the E450, for every PC currently in production.  That is what had intrigued me.
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2017, 09:32:44 am »
One can always count on PC forum members to jump right into the discussion with some candid opinions, that is why I like the forum so much!  No one has the crystal ball to see what the future holds and again I was not implying that a Feightliner chassis was the direct replacement for the E-450 in 100% of the the applications it is utilized for  but it certainly could be a replacement for the larger triple slide 29'-32 foot class C's that are really over weight before they are loaded with anything.  If I was to venture a guess I can see the 20'-23' coaches being built on the Sprinter, Transit and Ram chassis exclusively, the 23' and up could utilize the F series and Ram 5500  with the 29' plus coaches utilizing the  Feightliner SC-2RV.  Ford initially said they would stop production of the E-450 in 2020, they are now saying as long as the demand is there they will continue production, one does not know what the bottom line "demand" really is?  If we see another spike in fuel costs I am not sure how the V-10 is going to compete?  At 71 MPH (no toad) with my ISL-9 Cummins I consistently get 10.7 on flat road, the ISB will get that or better.  Just my two cents and that is probably all it is worth!   Thanks, Ron
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Re: Freightliner
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2017, 09:52:02 am »
I could imagine a 31' PC on this chassis with lighter suspension,  single rear 22.5" wheels at lower tire pressure, and NO rear overhang to sag or swing or require chassis mods to enjoy driving, and would really love an air horn.
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