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Barry-Sue

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  • Location: Michigan
Re: Flaking Vinyl
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2023, 05:50:59 pm »
We used a local car restoration shop that restores hot rods and antique cars.  We shopped around at different upholstery shops and even though we paid a lot they were the most reasonable.  Upholstery shops wanted 3-4 thousand dollars and we got this done for 2 thousand.  This was just for the captains chairs and extra material. 
We priced new chairs but couldn’t find any that allowed both chairs to swivel.  We are on our third winter with them and they still look brand new.
Barry and Sue 
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kmallen

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Re: Flaking Vinyl
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2024, 12:55:33 am »
My 2016 model 2351's upholstery (driver and passenger) were fine till about 2 years ago.  Its getting to the point where I need to replace the covers.  I was refered to Pauls in Elkhart.  I believe they provided the orginals.  Anyone know if thats a good or bad option for purchasing new covers. 

Thanks!
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Ron Dittmer

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Re: Flaking Vinyl
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2024, 09:34:54 am »
Whether going with Paul's for recovering/restoring, or changing seats entirely, I would only consider 100% real leather on "EVERY" surface, or 100% cloth.  I could never trust vinyl as an upholstery option.

After the great recession of 2008/2009, the vinyl material has been imported from China instead of "Made In USA".  The China made vinyl flakes.  The USA made does not.  Our 2007 vinyl seating from Paul's remains in great shape.  Once the old USA stock was used up, the problem started to surface around model year 2009/2010.  It is not a Phoenix Cruiser problem alone.  It is across the entire RV industry, from motorhomes to travel trailers, 5th wheels, whatever.
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Barry-Sue

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Re: Flaking Vinyl
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2024, 01:38:03 pm »
Naugahyde (automotive vinyl) is still manufactured in the USA.  This is what we used to redo our PC.  So not all vinyl is manufactured in China.  It was a lot less expensive then 100% real leather and has been around for over 50 years. 

Naugahyde is made in Wisconsin and we felt it was our best option for price, maintenance and durability.

I think it is a personal choice for people to use what they feel will work for them.  Just like shocks, some preferred Koni while others preferred Bilstein.  But neither one is right or wrong. It’s all a matter of personal choice.   Some prefer to have levelers installed, others not.  Again, personal choice.   Some prefer full body paint, others not.  Again it is all personal choice. 





Barry and Sue 
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Ron Dittmer

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Re: Flaking Vinyl
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2024, 08:59:45 am »
Naugahyde (automotive vinyl) is still manufactured in the USA.  This is what we used to redo our PC.  So not all vinyl is manufactured in China.  It was a lot less expensive then 100% real leather and has been around for over 50 years. 

Naugahyde is made in Wisconsin and we felt it was our best option for price, maintenance and durability.
Interesting!!!

I did not know that.  I thought all upholstery vinyl since the Great Recession of 2008/2009 has been imported from China.  Thankyou Barry-Sue for sharing that valuable information.
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Re: Flaking Vinyl
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2024, 10:43:21 pm »
Ultra leather  :'(
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fCSW1eCs90s

So it turns out that the elusive Nauga didn’t really go  extinct from years of overharvesting after all. :bolt
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