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RV Wind Generator
« on: December 30, 2016, 01:16:26 pm »
We don't do much boondocking and don't know much about solar, etc, but I ran across this article on RV Wind Generators and it occurred to me that I've never read about this technology on this forum.  Thought I'd post it in case there is interest....

http://www.truckcampermagazine.com/news/new-product-free-spirit-energy-wind-generators

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Re: RV Wind Generator
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2016, 02:45:13 pm »
It's noisy and expensive, $425. They only make the 250 model.
http://truckcamperadventure.com/2014/05/review-of-windwalker-250-rv-wind-turbine/
I'm not sure how much voltage this puts out or how they control it. Specs. do not make it clear. 30 Volts?



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Re: RV Wind Generator
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2016, 08:34:59 am »
The first link gives the interview and includes the output. There is no controller. It states the charge is too low to damage the batteries. Here are the quotes on that:

"TCM: The Windwalker 150 generates 5 amps with 6.5 to 35 mph wind.  The Windwalker 250 generates 8.5 amps with 8 to 30 mph wind.  How do you monitor the charge?"

"Jack: The Windwalkers are designed to be wired directly to your batteries, like a trickle charger.  You could connect the leads from the wind generator to a tester to see the charge.  I use a weather station mounted on the wind generator mast that tells me the wind speed."

And now for Holly's two cents worth. I absolutely LOVE alternate energy solutions, however, mounting a wind generator to a building or camper causes all the vibration and noise to be channeled right through the unit. I've spoken with a guy that makes his living doing these things and he said he would NEVER attach a wind generator to his home again or even have it within 30 feet of the house due to noise. Contrary to the statements in the article, wind at 14-15 feet is NOT clean and undisturbed. It is swirling around the hills, the trees, the camping units. These wind generators have very specific wind speeds for "optimal" output so if you are not getting STEADY wind at those speeds, you will see little energy gain. The article states that the units have to be pulled down if wind or gusts go over 35 mph or your motor is toast so there is no built-in break-away to protect the unit like they have on big wind generators. And last but not least, the argument that these work better than solar panels because they pull in power day and night; unless there is a storm, night is the quiet time for wind. Once the air has settled after the sun goes down, there is little wind movement, certainly not enough to steadily power a wind generator. Besides reading this in many books, I have experienced it while sweltering in hot tents at night.

I'm not saying you won't get some power. I'm just saying there are a lot of drawbacks to consider. Personally, I'm planning on solar with proper controllers for when we return to the road. We'll just deal with the added weight by ditching more stuff we thought we'd use - but don't. You ALL know what I'm talking about there.

For those interested in alternate energy, I recommend hitting the Solar Decathlon if you have the chance. We were regular attendees up until they yanked it out of DC and moved it to California and other venues with actual sun... go figure. The 2017 decathlon is in Denver http://www.solardecathlon.gov/ next October.

If we get free of this area in time we might have to hit the PC Rally in Oregon in September then slide on down to Denver for the decathlon in October. Just to clarify, the decathlon is a competition where ten college teams build energy efficient houses, not RV's but you can see all kinds of creative ways to live small and be energy efficient and some of those can transfer over to an RV. Besides, I love this stuff. When we finally quit the road our plan is to buy or build the most energy efficient house we can come up with so that our money is used for playtime and is not sucked down the black hole of utility bills. If Dan Chiras could live comfortably at 8,000 ft up in the Colorado Rockies with total utility bills of under $50/month (with half of that the delivery fee for propane), so can I. I just need an extra carport or shed for the PC.
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Re: RV Wind Generator
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2016, 09:53:41 am »
About two years ago we were camped in a NF campground in Colorado.  I spotted a rig and had to talk to them, of course.  It was a 190 Roadtrek Popular (3500 Chevy Van conversion Class B, about 19+ feet long).  The occupants were a couple full timing in the Roadtrek.  The guy was a retired professor from one of the universities in Florida.  He was a kind of self taught engineer type guy as well.  He had designed and built a nifty wind generator on a pole that telescoped up to a few feet above the rig, about 12 feet above the ground when extended.   He also had a couple of hundred watt solar panels on the roof.  He told me the small wind generator worked great and really kept the batteries up on windy days and was super for those days with wind and clouds which obliterated the solar panels.  It was a neat system and this couple had lived this way for a year touring North America.  Also, they had a large StowAWay carrier on the back.  If you look up the specs for a RT190 you will discover an unexpectedly large carrying capacity for the rig.  We owned an identical RT model for many years and it was incredibly well designed and built.

Two "miracles" here: (1) all the neat stuff he had self designed and built to boondock most of the time in a small Class B and  (2) two people still being civil after a year of living full time in a small van. 

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Re: RV Wind Generator
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2017, 03:12:57 pm »
We don't do much boondocking and don't know much about solar, etc, but I ran across this article on RV Wind Generators and it occurred to me that I've never read about this technology on this forum.  Thought I'd post it in case there is interest....

http://www.truckcampermagazine.com/news/new-product-free-spirit-energy-wind-generators

My 2 cents worth.  I have had wind generators on my sailboat for more than 20 years.  On a sailboat they work well, but it is 90% 12v.  Just like solar they are subject to the whims of nature.  I started many years ago with one that had absolutely no regulation or shutdown switch.  Nearly killed me in a 60 knot storm.  My most recent ones are internally regulated and have a remote switch to turn off when needed.  They each can put out up to 10 amps in 25-30 knots.  The one featured here probably does not need regulation due to its limited output.  At first glance it does not appear to be beefy enough to me and those plastic blades will deteriorate if they are not UV protected. Lastly I think there will probably be alot of harmonic vibration transmitted through the rv itself.  More solar and upgraded battery bank would be my choice.

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