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jatrax

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  • Model: 2552
  • ModelYear: 2017
  • Slide: Yes
  • IntColor: Graystone
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  • Location: Oregon Mountains
New Owner
« on: November 06, 2016, 05:57:26 pm »
Well, we pulled the trigger on a new 2017 2552 last week.  Visited the factory and spent a day and a half with Earl, Kyle and Kermit getting questions answered and discussing options and modifications.  We had a great visit and I can see why everyone thinks so highly of the folks at PC.  We had a long and possibly unreasonable list of modifications and ended up with most of them.  I cannot imagine another builder being so willing to work with us.

So much better having the opportunity to be involved rather than picking something off a dealer lot.
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Gail Staton

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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2016, 06:39:43 pm »
Glad to hear about your great experience with the folks at PC.   I'm sure you are wanting the next couple of months to fly.  I look forward to hearing about the progress of your 2552.   Congratulations.

Gail
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Ron Dittmer

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  • Location: N/E Illinois
Re: New Owner
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2016, 10:47:46 pm »
jatrax,

You are such a teaser.  Please share all the details on the deviations you worked out with the people at Phoenix.

 :)  Ron
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Re: New Owner
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2016, 12:48:44 pm »
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We had a long and possibly unreasonable list of modifications and ended up with most of them.
Good to hear John.
I hope things worked out with the Power Management System and Solar Power system that we discussed.
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Re: New Owner
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2016, 08:21:38 pm »
I second (or triple) that motion to hear what all you came up with.  My RV will run the line this winter so I am all for finding out anything I might not have thought of that I might still get changed.  I am in for double solar panels and an upgraded inverter along with some of the known options.
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Re: New Owner
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2016, 09:35:17 pm »
I, too, would love to hear what you did to make this 2552 "YOUR 2552".  I continue to go back and forth between the 2552 and the 2910T.  Hearing about what one has done and why... sure does help with my own perpetual internal dialogue (yes... I DO talk to myself!).

Jim
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jatrax

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Re: New Owner
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2016, 11:14:41 pm »
OK everyone here is the options list and yeah we might have over done it  :-D

2552 with slide
Slide with sofa instead of dinette
Full body paint
Keyless entry
Cab floor insulation
Safety plus steering stabilizer
Graystone exterior
Graystone interior
Cherry cabinets
Wood floor
Awning
Premium convenience package
Power driver seat
Swivel passenger seat
Heated seats
HWH leveling jacks
Surround sound / DVD
Insulated glass
Back up monitor with rear camera
Side cameras
Satellite dish
Second fantastic fan
Ultra leather throughout
3rd captain's seat in place of the Euro-chair with seat-belt
Corian counter top extension
Extra 120 volt receptacle in kitchen
Replace kitchen mirror with metal back splash
Add shelves in passenger side wardrobe
Maxx air covers on the exhaust fans
Power bed on passenger side
2x 150 watt solar panels
Install Trimetric 2030 battery monitor
Upgrade to 2000 watt pure sine inverter
Upgrade air conditioner to 15k heat pump
Upgrade refrigerator to Norcold DE-0061 12 volt compressor model
Connector for gas grill
Install AGM batteries
Install surge suppressor
Extra security lights on sides
Add USB receptacles on the 12 volt system

There are also a number of real modifications to the floor plan but I am going to hold off on posting those until we get closer to build time.  Don't want to jinx anything.  Carrie and I are really, really happy with the design and with Kermit for agreeing to build it the way we want.  But I'm going to hold off on posting it yet, just in case.
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jatrax

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Re: New Owner
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2016, 11:19:40 pm »
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I hope things worked out with the Power Management System and Solar Power system that we discussed.
Got the OK from Kermit this afternoon to do it the way I want, mostly.  So it looks like that is a very big, yes  2o2

Wish I could have gotten a larger battery pack but everyone at PC says there is no more room.  So we will work with what they can do.  Will have two panels on the roof and a good solar controller, monitored by the Trimetric so I'm happy.
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Re: New Owner
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2016, 11:32:53 pm »
jatrax, I absolutely love your list.

If I may.....

You said you are getting AGM batteries.  I agree.  Are they 6V or 12V batteries?  I got two 6V AGM batteries and are extremely happy with them so far.  That is compared to two 12V lead acid batteries.  I feel two 6Vs share the load much better, and discharge in unison better than two 12Vs.  But understand that I've had them for only under 3 years so far.

About your 3 captain seats.  Make sure they all have the manual dial lumbar support.  Years after buying our PC, we ordered our third captain seat which by chance happened to come with that dial-in lumbar support.  We wished the two main seats up front had that.

Ron
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jatrax

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Re: New Owner
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2016, 11:49:54 pm »
I thought they were 6 volt, but now that you bring it up I'm not 100% sure Earl ever said.

I have read up a lot on batteries and there is always some argument about the 6 volt versus 12 volt issue.  But my opinion, based on information from people I trust is that IF the batteries are of equal quality, size and specifications there is no difference in performance between a pair of 6 volt or a pair of 12 volt.  The problem is finding a set of 12 volt ones that are equal to the 6 volt ones.  Good quality deep cycle 6 volts are just easier to come by so most people use them.  They seem to be cheaper than an equivalent set of 12 volts as well.

The big 'con' for 6 volt battery packs is the hypothetical situation where one of the batteries fails.  With 2x 12 volt ones you can cut out the bad battery and keep going.  Cannot do that with 2x 6 volt ones.  But honestly how often is that ever going to happen?
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jatrax

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Re: New Owner
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2016, 11:54:28 pm »
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I continue to go back and forth between the 2552 and the 2910T.
We did the same.  Two things decided us, first we have a real limit to what will fit on our lot.  We measured carefully and the 2552 will fit.  The 2910?  Maybe, sorta, kinda, hanging over into the neighbor's yard.  Second, we liked the idea of the queen bed in the slide with space to walk around on the 2910.  But when we tested it at the factory the space to walk around was not really very big, not worth taking the chance on the longer length to us.

So 2552 it is.  But the 2910 is a very nice layout, just not for us.
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Pax

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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2016, 05:14:20 am »
Wow, sounds like it'll be a really nice rig!  Do you know if the side cameras will be mounted on the side mirrors or on the side of the rig?

  - Mike
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TomHanlon

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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2016, 06:47:43 am »
Nice list with every thing one could possibly want.
I was wondering where you live and where you plan on going camping. What with the insulated windows, and upgraded AC. You might want to update your profile to include where you live.
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jatrax

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Re: New Owner
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2016, 10:36:55 am »
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Do you know if the side cameras will be mounted on the side mirrors or on the side of the rig?
From what I saw at the factory they get mounted on the front quarter panels, not the mirrors.

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What with the insulated windows, and upgraded AC. You might want to update your profile to include where you live.
Will do!  Insulated windows I added mostly to reduce outside noise based on comments here.  We discussed all of the different A/C options with Earl and ended with the 15k BTU model.  It includes the heat pump so in mild weather provides heat, down to mid 40's I think, has a little more A/C capacity and from reports here is quieter than the smaller model. 

We are based out of Oregon in the Cascade mountains but plan to travel over most of the west.

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Re: New Owner
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2016, 07:45:31 pm »
We have the 15K air conditioner with heat pump and we just got back from a trip to the smokies and shenandoah and the heat pump worked great down into the 40's when we were plugged in with electric.  A nice option when plugged in to not have to use your LP.
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