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RV Insurance and Extended Warranty Insurance
« on: October 31, 2015, 11:24:39 am »
    I have had Good Sam extended warranty insurance for past two years and  I have never used it. I guess that good or not. I have decided to gamble and cancel it as it is due Dec 2nd. It was approximately 280. a quarter and feel I could put that money in the bank. I keep up maintenance on the rv and really travel from March to November  and since they do not prorate it I feel they are making money. Plus my RV service dealer said they did have a problem with Good Sam warranty even when they received an approval to do the work.  The RV is now winterized and parked in the Garage. 
  My RV insurance is with Good Sam as well and they have been notified that it is not in use till Spring.  At the same time I am sure there are other insurance companies that our members have used and maybe better rates.  Presently I am paying $900 a year and I don't pay for time garaged.   I did get a  quote through Family Motor Coach for $100.00 less but they don't give you a break for being out of service for the winter.   So many things to consider when getting quotes from these companies.   One is from National Interstate from FMCA and Good Sam uses National General Ins.Co.
So what are the opinions from other members.  I guess it has to be where you live that denotes rates.!!
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Re: RV Insurance and Extended Warranty Insurance
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2015, 12:55:18 pm »
I had an extended warranty once (not GS).  Tried to use it once – long story, but they wouldn’t pay for a ridiculous reason.  Never bought it again.  We have always had State Farm insurance, about $570/yr.  They paid a few times over 30 years, no problems, no increases.  Got quotes from GS twice, always quite a bit higher.  I always preferred to have coverage all year long in case of storm damage or vandalism.
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Re: RV Insurance and Extended Warranty Insurance
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2015, 01:09:31 pm »
We have our insurance with Geico. It is $635 a year. I took the National Safety Council Driving Course (on line) and received a credit on the RV insurance as well as my auto insurance. We have not had to use it so we have no experience with their claims. We have never had any extended warranty on ahything!

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Re: RV Insurance and Extended Warranty Insurance
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2015, 02:16:25 pm »
We have our insurance through AARP The Hartford.  It is $437 a year and is valid for the full 12 months.  It also includes an Emergency Motor Home Roadside Assistance as part of the price.  It says they will dispatch the nearest local emergency service to get your RV going again or tow you to the closest qualified facility anywhere in the US or Canada.  We have never used it.  We have worked with The Hartford before on a couple of claims and they were fantastic!

We have 250,000/500,000 liability and $100 deductible.

We have two other cars and our home and boat through them so I know we get some discounts.

I know at times we just put storage insurance on the cars but we have never tried it on the RV since we use it most months.
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Re: RV Insurance and Extended Warranty Insurance
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2015, 01:23:36 am »
If you are real handy with trouble shooting and repairs of all kinds at home and with your vehicles, I would say extended warranties would not be advisable.  If you are not handy, then I would say you need to think about it.  Don't just blindly buy it either.......just think about it.

When it comes to motor homes (and most other everyday household items), keep in-mind there are many forums, this place being one of them, where you can get decent advise and direction.  If you are hesitant, keep in mind that if someone else can do it for you, then maybe you can do it for yourself as well......surgical procedures not so much.   :)
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Re: RV Insurance and Extended Warranty Insurance
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2015, 08:28:28 am »
Ron's way will save you on the labor for smaller jobs, but what he is missing is the cost and availablility  of the parts. An extended warranty will save you on the labor and the parts. This is really important on the larger jobs, like a transmission, A/C and heating drive train parts, etc. Also if you have a part go bad on a trip, you may not have the tools and parts to find the bad part and fix it yourself. Last summer I ,as on a trip when my wife told me she was not getting any water even though she had turned on the water pump. We were in a rest stop trying to have lunch. I check the circuit breakers and fuses but no pump action. When we got to the campground, I called the warranty company and was approved to call a mobile repairman. He checked everything and ended up replacing the water pump. No cost to me. On another trip my electric step was swinging free. Again I made the calls and had it fixed that evening for free. It would have been a really bad trip without the step. I would have really screwed up the step if I had taken the four carriage bolts off to remove the step as they are put into the floor before the flooring is laid down at the factory. You cannot get to the top of the bolt to tighten them. Besides, I did not have the pin that broke and would not know were to get one.

I do some of the smaller jobs on maintaining my motorhomes but when it comes to the bigger jobs or what I don't really know about, I let the professionals do the work. I was lucky to get the extended warranty as part of the deal for buying my PC at a show. It was a one time thing that Stuart did and probably never would do again.  This is the first time I have ever had an extended warranty. So far it has not paid for itself but I have not needed any of the big jobs. It is comforting knowing it is available if I ever need it. I had the road service for two years but let that go.

So think about what you want and might need. We are each different in so many ways.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2015, 08:41:45 am by TomHanlon »

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Re: RV Insurance and Extended Warranty Insurance
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2015, 09:46:48 am »
 A lot of good points and viewpoints are being presented in this very interesting thread.  Several things come to my mind including that each of us has different skill and comfort levels to make repairs ourselves.  We each use our rigs differently and some are older than others.  So, each of our viewpoints is important.

I would make my "2 AM sweaty palms" comment:  if it is something that is going to worry you and take away your comfort and enjoyment of your RV, don't do it!  

Personally, I am totally comfortable without a warranty but I think there are a lot of us that should have one to fully enjoy worry free travel.  I enjoy the maintenance aspect of our rig and repairs are simply a part of the hobby for me.  I enjoy working on the thing!   I have been exceedingly fortunate in that I have taken only one rig in all my years of rving to a dealer for a repair.  I will not touch the chassis but that is another matter.  I do take the Ford part to a local shop I have been doing business with for thirty years and they have two bays for RVs under 30 feet to do chassis work.  I took the PC to a local independent rv repair shop  to have a towing/braking system installed because I don't know come here from sic 'em about doing that and didn't want to risk my life or someones life on my Billy Bob installation.

A service warranty is simply an insurance policy, no more and no less.  You have to read the fine and very fine print and think about it before you purchase.  Folks often get surprised when they find out a need is not covered under the extended warranty.  

The risk of not having a warranty is quantifiable.  How many years have you had your rig, how many more do you expect to keep it, how well do you maintain it and how many miles do you drive it?  How much out of pocket risk can you assume?  If for example, you had a $800 a year premium and hadn't used the warranty in five years you could have saved four grand.   Personally, I have a $1000 deductible on all my insurance policies.  In essence I self insure for the first grand.   To me, insurance is to cover the "biggies" I can't afford or control and the liability that is always present.  Having spent fifty years in finance, I finally figured out my Finance 101 professor was mostly right:  fear and greed where money is concerned are the only two emotions.  My greed just keeps me from turning over those extra bucks to an insurance company.   My fear always causes me to wonder if I am making a mistake by not doing that, so we are back to the first question:  what is your PERSONAL comfort level?  

Just my thoughts since like a lot of us I got us an hour earlier today :lol

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Re: RV Insurance and Extended Warranty Insurance
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2015, 07:02:17 pm »
A lot of good points and viewpoints are being presented in this very interesting thread.  Several things come to my mind including that each of us has different skill and comfort levels to make repairs ourselves.  We each use our rigs differently and some are older than others.  So, each of our viewpoints is important.

I would make my "2 AM sweaty palms" comment:  if it is something that is going to worry you and take away your comfort and enjoyment of your RV, don't do it!  

Personally, I am totally comfortable without a warranty but I think there are a lot of us that should have one to fully enjoy worry free travel.  I enjoy the maintenance aspect of our rig and repairs are simply a part of the hobby for me.  I enjoy working on the thing!   I have been exceedingly fortunate in that I have taken only one rig in all my years of rving to a dealer for a repair.  I will not touch the chassis but that is another matter.  I do take the Ford part to a local shop I have been doing business with for thirty years and they have two bays for RVs under 30 feet to do chassis work.  I took the PC to a local independent rv repair shop  to have a towing/braking system installed because I don't know come here from sic 'em about doing that and didn't want to risk my life or someones life on my Billy Bob installation.

A service warranty is simply an insurance policy, no more and no less.  You have to read the fine and very fine print and think about it before you purchase.  Folks often get surprised when they find out a need is not covered under the extended warranty.  

The risk of not having a warranty is quantifiable.  How many years have you had your rig, how many more do you expect to keep it, how well do you maintain it and how many miles do you drive it?  How much out of pocket risk can you assume?  If for example, you had a $800 a year premium and hadn't used the warranty in five years you could have saved four grand.   Personally, I have a $1000 deductible on all my insurance policies.  In essence I self insure for the first grand.   To me, insurance is to cover the "biggies" I can't afford or control and the liability that is always present.  Having spent fifty years in finance, I finally figured out my Finance 101 professor was mostly right:  fear and greed where money is concerned are the only two emotions.  My greed just keeps me from turning over those extra bucks to an insurance company.   My fear always causes me to wonder if I am making a mistake by not doing that, so we are back to the first question:  what is your PERSONAL comfort level?  

Just my thoughts since like a lot of us I got us an hour earlier today :lol

Paul
A lot of good points have been expressed and really appreciate.  Life is a gamble and decisions to be make.  I will check into the insurance companies suggested as I Have time.   As far as warranties I will check out other companies.  Thanks to all for your suggestions. It is really appreciated.

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Re: RV Insurance and Extended Warranty Insurance
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2015, 03:51:31 pm »
    I have had Good Sam extended warranty insurance for past two years and  I have never used it. I guess that good or not. I have decided to gamble and cancel it as it is due Dec 2nd. It was approximately 280. a quarter and feel I could put that money in the bank. I keep up maintenance on the rv and really travel from March to November  and since they do not prorate it I feel they are making money. Plus my RV service dealer said they did have a problem with Good Sam warranty even when they received an approval to do the work.  The RV is now winterized and parked in the Garage. 
  My RV insurance is with Good Sam as well and they have been notified that it is not in use till Spring.  At the same time I am sure there are other insurance companies that our members have used and maybe better rates.  Presently I am paying $900 a year and I don't pay for time garaged.   I did get a  quote through Family Motor Coach for $100.00 less but they don't give you a break for being out of service for the winter.   So many things to consider when getting quotes from these companies.   One is from National Interstate from FMCA and Good Sam uses National General Ins.Co.
So what are the opinions from other members.  I guess it has to be where you live that denotes rates.!!
I always check this forum for all ideas and value everyone's opinion. 
  Happy Halloween to all!
Just want to thank everyone for their advice earlier. I have since signed up with Geico Insurance and got a very good rate and saved almost $300. on the policy compared to Good Sam's insurance.  Cancelled my Extended warranty with Good Sam and intent to put the money in the bank for any problems for which I hope don't have.    Did get a quote from Wholesale Warranties just for comparison and it was out of the ball park.  So I will gamble.  Since I only use MH for about 150-200 days and keep it serviced All should be well we hope.  Intend to purchase new tires in the spring using FMAC advantage program and look into Bilstein shocks as mentioned in this forum.   Hope everyone has safe holidays. Thanks again.

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Re: RV Insurance and Extended Warranty Insurance
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2016, 11:45:52 am »
Getting quotes on RV Insurance and it is across the board in price. 

For most, claims are never made and so price seems to be a strong consideration.  Unfortunately, there are legitimate claims and that's my questions.  Have any of you had a legitimate claim/roadside request where you were dissatisfied with the response on advertised coverage?

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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2016, 08:34:40 pm »
    I have had Good Sam extended warranty insurance for past two years and  I have never used it. I guess that good or not. I have decided to gamble and cancel it as it is due Dec 2nd. It was approximately 280. a quarter and feel I could put that money in the bank. I keep up maintenance on the rv and really travel from March to November  and since they do not prorate it I feel they are making money. Plus my RV service dealer said they did have a problem with Good Sam warranty even when they received an approval to do the work.  The RV is now winterized and parked in the Garage. 
  My RV insurance is with Good Sam as well and they have been notified that it is not in use till Spring.  At the same time I am sure there are other insurance companies that our members have used and maybe better rates.  Presently I am paying $900 a year and I don't pay for time garaged.   I did get a  quote through Family Motor Coach for $100.00 less but they don't give you a break for being out of service for the winter.   So many things to consider when getting quotes from these companies.   One is from National Interstate from FMCA and Good Sam uses National General Ins.Co.
So what are the opinions from other members.  I guess it has to be where you live that denotes rates.!!
I always check this forum for all ideas and value everyone's opinion. 
  Happy Halloween to all!

Progressive through USAA was the lowest I could find when we bought our 2008 2350 last May.  They originally quoted $460 but jacked it up to $570 when they discovered a couple of old speeding tickets I had forgotten about.  It was still the best quote we got (although I didn't try Good Sam).  I told them it would be garaged 10 months of the year but they wrote it for 6 months active, anyway. 

Good Sam recently sent me something in the mail and I called just to check.  Their deal through "National General" was $380, for better coverage.  And unlike Progressive, they considered our two tickets "minor" violations and gave us the "good driver" rate anyway.  They also said I could call and tell them when it's stored between trips and they would refund the liability and collision premiums for the time it wasn't on the road -- and they gave me a discount for storing it in an enclosed garage.  The only thing missing was roadside assistance, but I didn't need it anyway, since we have AAA.

My natural skepticism tells me it's a teaser rate, but the agent swears its not.  We'll see.  In the meantime, my refund from Progressive nearly pays for next year's insurance tab.

I don't know if this helps, since you're already with Good Sam.  Your rig is probably a lot newer, or maybe your deductible is too low (ours is $1000). 

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Re: RV Insurance and Extended Warranty Insurance
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2016, 09:30:48 pm »
BlueBlaze mentions a very important factor in the price of insurance of any kind:  the deductible.  I never have less than $1000 deductible on any insurance policy and on some (roofs since we live in Stormland) I have a higher deductible than that.  The savings is significant.   Now, I fix virtually everything myself and enjoy doing it and that makes a difference.  I would never make a claim on something small even if I had insurance, just out of self reliance to fix it and forget it.  My last vehicular claim was fifteen years ago on a BT Cruiser....a dear deer.  Notice, I carefully said "a million miles without an accident with another vehicle" in the next paragraph. (cheer)

We have Safeco insurance on everything and have for 25 years.  I have over a million miles total driving without an accident with another vehicle.   The last time I got a speeding ticket or warning was thirty years ago.  I guess I am just lucky.  But man it sure reflects in the lower payments for insurance.   Where you live, your personal driving record and your credit rating all play a part.  Using  credit rating is controversial, but it is a factor in pricing policies. 

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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2016, 07:24:46 am »
Premiums are easy to compare, as are deductibles.  The hard part about comparing insurance is what is actually covered by each company.  I found when doing my research a few years ago that many insurance companies do not cover such things as rooftop satellite dishes, tow bars/hitches, awnings, rental car or hotel during repairs, etc.

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Re: RV Insurance and Extended Warranty Insurance
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2016, 10:38:18 am »
Hi Everyone,

As AARP members, we switched our various insurances (house, car, RV, etc) to Hartford.  We appreciate the coverage & low the rates, and how the company understands that we can only drive two vehicles at any given time, so the 3rd vehicle is cheaper, the PC being a 3rd seasonally driven vehicle.  I also appreciate it that I don't have to suspend it's insurance off season to save money like I did with Allstate.  This past March I bought a 4th vehicle, a little sports car, a 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP which was exceptionally cheap to insure.  The more vehicles you insure, the cheaper they get.

If shopping around for RV/auto insurance, I suggest to become an AARP member for the many different benefits the membership offers, then get a quote from Hartford to compare to the other plans you are considering.

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