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Re: Hershey RV Show 2015
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2015, 07:27:50 am »
Oh, the Amazon work is order fulfillment: pulling stock, shipping and receiving.
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Re: Hershey RV Show 2015
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2015, 08:09:16 am »
And again - I found the paper amongst the mass of show goodies. They pay $10.75 for days, $11.25 for nights plus that extra $1.00  per hour completion bonus. Over 40 hours a week is paid at time and a half. You get a full hook up site with an electric allowance. They make arrangements with local campgrounds, give you a list for the area you were hired for, you pick one and reserve your site, the bill goes to and is paid directly by Amazon. Job descriptions, requirements and some videos are on the website.

The sites may change over the years. They used to have one in Utah but no longer need outside help. The camper force fills in where the local work force cannot supply enough labor for the big holiday push. They don't want to take away jobs from the locals.
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Re: Hershey RV Show 2015
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2015, 08:04:50 pm »
Looks like Phoenix has switched to the Box Mount model Sani-Con. Three times the dumping speed would be nice, but retail is $400 (less online). Or maybe it's an OEM-only model that is weather resistant; it doesn't quite look like the Box Mount model. I can't wait to find out more about it.
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Re: Hershey RV Show 2015
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2015, 06:12:31 am »
This is purely my opinion but Kermit seems to seek out the cool RV stuff and add it to his babies. He is very proud of what he builds and seems to have a goal of making the best RV he can. Phoenix doesn't necessarily flaunt it though. We researched and compared RVs and chose the Phoenix but even with all that research, plus seeing one at a show, plus a factory tour, there were cool features we didn't know we had until we took delivery. One example is the in-tank flushing system. This is really cool and would have been a plus on my list but I didn't know about it. I knew others offered it for an additional charge but there it was as a standard feature on our Phoenix.
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Re: Hershey RV Show 2015
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2015, 08:01:12 am »
The tank flusher setup works great.  I use it when preparing our rig for winter storage.  But I understand it is really useful for dislodging solid waste......we just don't deposit solid waste into it.  (WH)
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Re: Hershey RV Show 2015
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2015, 09:39:36 am »
The new Sanicon-Inna-Box sounds nice!  I'm wondering if it is significantly quieter?  That would be another huge plus.

   - Mike

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Re: Hershey RV Show 2015
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2015, 10:03:52 am »
The new Sanicon-Inna-Box sounds nice!  I'm wondering if it is significantly quieter?  That would be another huge plus.

   - Mike
I did a quick search on that and found a video on the installation.  It said the Sanicon-In-Box thingy needs to be mounted below the outlet of the tank.  If Phoenix doesn't change the balance of the plumbing, this means SIB will be mounted in the same location as the current design, maybe hanging lower yet given the mechanical configuration.  It will be interesting to see what the factory comes up with.

I agree the Sanicon runs loud.  The older they are, the louder they are.  Our new macerator is less loud.  I think the worst of the noise comes from the rubber flappers inside the pump portion.  I admit I tolerate the noise well.  But I use it at dump stations, not at full hook-up campsites where the noise would be irritating to neighbors.

As with the fresh water pump, I think the noise resonates throughout the rig because of the "hard" connection.  Having that soft 3" slinky connection as seen in the video, should dampen it well.
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Re: Hershey RV Show 2015
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2015, 10:55:25 am »
Phoenix added rollers to the bottom of the hitch bar cross member because the new sani-conv box being really low and the 3" outlet being farther back. You can see them in Bill Golden's pictures above.
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Re: Hershey RV Show 2015
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2015, 12:19:45 pm »
The new Sanicon-Inna-Box sounds nice!  I'm wondering if it is significantly quieter?  That would be another huge plus.

   - Mike
I did a quick search on that and found a video on the installation.  It said the Sanicon-In-Box thingy needs to be mounted below the outlet of the tank.  If Phoenix doesn't change the balance of the plumbing, this means SIB will be mounted in the same location as the current design, maybe hanging lower yet given the mechanical configuration.  It will be interesting to see what the factory comes up with.

I agree the Sanicon runs loud.  The older they are, the louder they are.  Our new macerator is less loud.  I think the worst of the noise comes from the rubber flappers inside the pump portion.  I admit I tolerate the noise well.  But I use it at dump stations, not at full hook-up campsites where the noise would be irritating to neighbors.

As with the fresh water pump, I think the noise resonates throughout the rig because of the "hard" connection.  Having that soft 3" slinky connection as seen in the video, should dampen it well.

Our 2015 model 2551 (built in December 2014) had an "engineering prototype" of the new Turbo Sanicon installed.   It's superb.   And very quiet.   It is hard to tell it is running once the tank is empty.    It takes 45 seconds or so to empty the black water tank (30+ gallons) and about half that time to empty the grey water tank (20+ gallons).   It is an excellent device and has given me zero problems and we had been out for about 2 1/2 months with our PC this year (over 12,000 milrs).

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Re: Hershey RV Show 2015
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2015, 12:36:20 pm »
The new Sanicon-Inna-Box sounds nice!  I'm wondering if it is significantly quieter?  That would be another huge plus.

   - Mike
I did a quick search on that and found a video on the installation.  It said the Sanicon-In-Box thingy needs to be mounted below the outlet of the tank.  If Phoenix doesn't change the balance of the plumbing, this means SIB will be mounted in the same location as the current design, maybe hanging lower yet given the mechanical configuration.  It will be interesting to see what the factory comes up with.

I agree the Sanicon runs loud.  The older they are, the louder they are.  Our new macerator is less loud.  I think the worst of the noise comes from the rubber flappers inside the pump portion.  I admit I tolerate the noise well.  But I use it at dump stations, not at full hook-up campsites where the noise would be irritating to neighbors.

As with the fresh water pump, I think the noise resonates throughout the rig because of the "hard" connection.  Having that soft 3" slinky connection as seen in the video, should dampen it well.

Our 2015 model 2551 (built in December 2014) had an "engineering prototype" of the new Turbo Sanicon installed.   It's superb.   And very quiet.   It is hard to tell it is running once the tank is empty.    It takes 45 seconds or so to empty the black water tank (30+ gallons) and about half that time to empty the grey water tank (20+ gallons).   It is an excellent device and has given me zero problems and we had been out for about 2 1/2 months with our PC this year (over 12,000 milrs).


That is VERY encouraging!
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Re: Hershey RV Show 2015
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2015, 01:34:02 pm »
When we were at the Nahville rally Kermit was showing off the new macerator. And of course the question came up about retrofitting it to older units.  His answer was "no", as he explained they would have to reset the the two tanks and plumbing.  He did say that our pumps will continue to be manufactured and parts will be available.   :)(:.  So, I guess in order to have that fancy new pump I'll have to convince my wife to be me a new PC. But, the newer 2350's have a smaller outside storage area. So I'm sticking to the old.

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Re: Hershey RV Show 2015
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2015, 03:25:46 pm »
He did say that our pumps will continue to be manufactured and parts will be available. 
Bill G..... :-D
Then there are the Seaflow pumps for $70 a piece compared to the Sanicon pump at $400 a piece.  With minor effort, one replaces the other.
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Re: Hershey RV Show 2015
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2015, 05:06:16 pm »
Hi Ron,
I did see your post on the macerator, sadly I purchased a complete unit from Phoenix last year at the factory.  'Twas a whopping  $300.00 for pump and hose.  But, I must have spare parts on hand.
 :-D
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