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Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper

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Barry-Sue

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Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2014, 04:24:08 pm »
Tim
We had a 2008 2350, with slide with a couch and, yes there were seat belts for the couch!

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BuffaloRose

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Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2014, 10:13:23 pm »
Welcome to the forum.  Our 2010, 2350 has seat belts in the passenger chair and on the sofa.

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Ron Dittmer

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Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2014, 08:23:46 am »
I believe it was in 1984, maybe 1985 when the RV industry was required to supply seat belts for every "official" seating position inside all motor homes.  If you bought a used rig without seat belts, most likely the previous owner removed them.  All PC dinettes, couches, and fixed individual seats have seat belts.

Regarding the later day Euro chair in many newer PCs including model 2350, it is not an "official" seating position.  It is not attached to the motor home for use when the rig is in motion.  It has a simple storing clamp to prevent it from moving around while the rig is driven.  Therefore it does not have seat belts.  If considering any PC with a Euro chair, you will have to replace it with a fixed chair typically mounted on a pedestal, bolted through the floor of the motor home.  If ordering a new PC, just ask the factory to do that for you, I believe at no extra charge.  I do not recommend the low back chair called a barrel chair.  Our rig originally came with that one but I replaced it with a 3rd matching captain seat for improved comfort and safety for a 3rd passenger along with great comfort when parked.  The low back barrel chair is not good for relaxing.

Here are pictures of our 3rd occupant captain seat with seat belts.  The pedestal it mounts to swivels and slides out from the center.

In this orientation I often slide the seat forward, (away from the wall) recline and use the dinette bench seat cushion as an ottoman.


My wife demonstrating one of many positions, here to watch a movie in comfort.
When sliding the seat in this position but into the isle, that passenger can look out the front window much better.  Their feet end up in between the two front seats.


For reference, here is a Euro chair.  Note the base is a metal ring that is not attached to the floor.
This seat is NOT to be used when driving.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2014, 08:50:28 am by ron.dittmer »
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Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2014, 10:45:47 am »
Ron tymote, the picture really help.My wife likes the fact that the chair swivels and reclines, looks nice. Thanks.      Bev and  Tim. :)(:

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Ron Dittmer

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Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2014, 12:34:34 pm »
Ron tymote, the picture really help.My wife likes the fact that the chair swivels and reclines, looks nice. Thanks.      Bev and  Tim. :)(:
You are very welcome!

Just so you know, people with the Euro chair rave over it's comfort.  If you'll never need that seat for a 3rd passenger, you might consider the Euro chair.  It is more friendly with a slide out than without like ours.  The extra floor space created from the slide out, allows the Euro chair to be moved about the cabin.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2014, 02:42:44 pm by ron.dittmer »
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TomHanlon

Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2014, 05:30:46 pm »
Yes to both questions.

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David J. Rotelle

Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2014, 04:58:13 pm »
Pictures of our 2015 2450

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David J. Rotelle

Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2014, 05:03:14 pm »
More pictures of our 2450

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David J. Rotelle

Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2014, 05:15:36 pm »
Sorry for all the posts......trying to get the pictures to the right size...last two!

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Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2014, 05:18:53 pm »
Really nice pictures... I adore all the homey touches!

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Ron Dittmer

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Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2014, 05:23:07 pm »
Oh so nice a rig you have there.

You do have me scratching my head.  I expected the slide-out to have a pantry along with the couch.  Where did the extra foot go?  Into a bigger couch?

My head gears are turning dangerously again.  I'd like that extra length to go into a longer bed for more outdoor storage, and also to work with a bigger bathroom.  I wonder if Phoenix could make the bath that much bigger.
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David J. Rotelle

Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2014, 05:26:34 pm »
Thanks! Yesterday we had a customer here at our shop with a 2010 2551 my wife and my daughter said "dad there is somebody here with a PC!!"
Wow, I had a great visit with them, very nice folks needless to say it wasn't long before I found myself standing in their coach talking about our Cruisers. :)

Ron, we decided to get a 60" sofa instead of the 54" and also the small night stand with the lamp. We really like it for sleeping with the added 6":
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Ron Dittmer

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Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2014, 05:35:30 pm »
Thanks! Yesterday we had a customer here at our shop with a 2010 2551 my wife and my daughter said "dad there is somebody here with a PC!!"
Wow, I had a great visit with them, very nice folks needless to say it wasn't long before I found myself standing in their coach talking about our Cruisers. :)

Ron, we decided to get a 60" sofa instead of the 54" and also the small night stand with the lamp. We really like it for sleeping with the added 6":
Oh yes, I do see the end table tucked in there, a very nice touch with more relaxing room with the longer couch too.

I wonder if Phoenix could have a dinette option made of a table and a pair of recliners, but maybe only in a no-slide to gain enough wall space for the needed room.
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David J. Rotelle

Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2014, 05:37:15 pm »
Ron, enclosed is a better picture of the sofa and night stand.

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Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2014, 10:55:10 pm »
Beautiful interior. Just the colors we'd get....
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