thks tom,,, did not turn on the AC,, in and out so much just did not want to mess with it,,, I double post since the general discussion is where most people read and I have been talking about summer projects last couple of weeks,,, eventually summer projects will disappear ,, I also put it on the tips... I think a lot of people especially newbies read all those tips.. I tell new people to read them all the time,,, I know I did when I first joined the group...
David