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General Discussion / Re: Canadian Phoenix Owners

« on: January 09, 2021, 10:44:22 am »

Yes, not me, but the buyers of my old RV traded in on the PC.

They had to have the usual modification to give it daytime running lights and have it safety inspected.   The modification for running lights was $80CDN and the inspection was similar.

There is some kind of import process, no idea on the cost.  I am sure tax has to be paid.  There are import brokers available who can fill you in on the process.

It's no different than bringing in a US titled vehicle.  My son did that when he moved to Canada with a US model pickup about 13 years ago.

Thanks Donc13, I wasn't sure about the House portion as to CSA or whomever regulates the RV industry, but would assume that CO detectors etc. would be pretty much the same requirements. I had a friend bring in a car when the Canadian dollar was high maybe 15 or 20 years back and as you mention, he had to flip the light switch out and also back then something with the speedometer so he had km/h vs mph.

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General Discussion / Canadian Phoenix Owners

« on: January 06, 2021, 04:48:39 pm »

Are there any Canadian Phoenix owners on the forum?

I haven't found any used 2351D's in Canada just wondering if anyone has bought a Phoenix in the US and had it plated in Canada.

Thanks

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General Discussion / Re: PC wheelbases

« on: January 03, 2021, 03:02:27 pm »

...there must be a formula that tends to work best I guess. Looking at some RV's their formulas are not quite up to snuff I would think as they tend to be very long in the tail.

The formula is wheelbase to length according to RVCG (https://rv.org/blogs/news/short-wheelbases-and-accidents-go-hand-in-hand). "To get the wheelbase-to-length ratio of a motor home, simply divide the wheelbase by the length of the vehicle. Under 51% is extremely dangerous; 51% to 54% is dangerous under many road condition and not adequate for general safety; 55% to 56% is marginal; 57% and over is usually steady on the road under most conditions."

The wheelbase to length ratio on my 2004 PC is over 60%. The wheelbase to length ratio on my previous coach (2014 Winnebago 31KE class A) was 51% (also about 2' taller). After many modifications the handling on the Winnebago was improved to "not dangerous anymore". The 2004 PC doesn't need any mods to improve handling as it is already comfortably safe.
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Thanks emcee, this makes a lot of sense when I think back 30 years to my first big (well larger boat), we ordered and pickup a 23 ft bow rider but were seriously thinking in a couple of years we would go for a 26 ft cuddy so we purchased a HD tandem trailer good for up to ~ 26 or 27 feet. Well with the lighter bow rider the axles being too far forward on the trailer made for a very poor handling combo, somewhat lifting the back of the f250 4X4 when a quick stop was required. I did not trailer much a good thing, eventually a visit to the dealer whom was a couple of hrs away resolved the issue. As soon as I mentioned what I had experienced he said lets see the mechanic that setup the trailer, low and behold the mechanic said he was not informed of the "smaller" boat that the trailer was being used to haul. A couple of hrs and the axles moved rearwards and re-aligned and on the test drive it was like night and day could not even tell the boat was behind the truck.
I assume similar physics applies to my boat trailer issue, well this helps to narrow down choices as I would like to have a fairly decent handling rig as it is maid for traveling. :-)

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General Discussion / Re: PC wheelbases

« on: December 29, 2020, 05:29:54 pm »

Thanks Everyone, I did not notice this when we were just browsing but now that we are digging in and really looking closer at floor plans and setup this came to the forefront. Since they are investing the time and money to do so I wonder why they would not extended longer and have less overhang, there must be a formula that tends to work best I guess. Looking at some RV's their formulas are not quite up to snuff I would think as they tend to be very long in the tail.

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General Discussion / PC wheelbases

« on: December 28, 2020, 05:02:57 pm »

Hello, looking through the various models very few seem to have wheelbases that match the Ford E450 specs provided on the Ford site. Do RV builders have the frames lengthened to meet their needs?

Thanks
DGC