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Any issue running Houghton AC while driving?
« on: July 18, 2021, 01:53:35 pm »
Can anyone with a Houghton AC Quiet unit tell me if their ac's work while driving? There was a thread a while back discussing that these units would "throw a code" if used while driving but I don't see an update from someone who has one.

I had Campers Inn replace my rear Dometic unit with a Houghton AC3400 as part of the purchase. This unit works extremely well and is very quite. I am considering replacing my noisy front Dometic unit with a Houghton but would like to be able to run the unit driving if I need to.

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Re: Any issue running Houghton AC while driving?
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2021, 07:57:18 pm »
I was told they don’t do well while driving. The reason they are so efficient and quiet is they have two balanced and sequenced fans. When driving I was told the wind speed from driving will throw the fans out of sequence or something to that degree and throw error codes. He said it won’t do harm supposedly but they won’t work.

When I was having mine installed I noticed some of the vans didn’t have the houghton ac so I asked about it.

I’m on my third season with mine. I have no reason to run my gen and Ac while driving so I didn’t try. That being said they were up front with me and willing to lose the sale telling me they don’t do well while under way.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2021, 08:01:44 pm by Joseph »

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Re: Any issue running Houghton AC while driving?
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2021, 08:58:53 pm »
I am thinking I would need to run the generator and roof ac in hot weather when I travel with passengers in the back of the coach.

Joseph - Do you have the 13.5k btu unit or the 15k unit?
« Last Edit: July 18, 2021, 09:09:07 pm by KEB »

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Re: Any issue running Houghton AC while driving?
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2021, 09:09:03 pm »
I was never told to not run mine while driving.  I have had mine for a couple years now and haven't had any issues. Don't really understand why they said that. The fans are balanced yes but cant see how the vehicles velocity is going to affect the condensing fan. The design of the condenser has air travel through the condenser and out the top of the cover. If the fan were to pickup speed from the wind pressure do to vehicle speeds, as long as the fan is balanced shouldn't be an issue. If it were in a wind storm your AC would be throwing a code wouldn't it?

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Re: Any issue running Houghton AC while driving?
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2021, 09:11:23 pm »
Our 2007 E350-V10 2350 (with no slide out) dash board a/c cools the bedroom in back very nicely when driving or when parked.  It works so well that we prefer idling the chassis engine for a/c because of it being so quiet.  Now I have to confess that we have not yet camped under extreme heat conditions.

Not having a slide out wall behind the driver helps to get more cold air in back when driving.  When parked, our smaller volume of air, thermal pane glass, and improved insulation without a slide out (extended) helps too.
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Re: Any issue running Houghton AC while driving?
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2021, 08:14:31 am »
There’s two fans the outer most fan catches the wind as you drive. It’s what they claimed happens on their motorhomes.  People, go ahead and do what ever floats your boat. I’m simply passing in what was passed on to me at Advanced RV which is the first company to import the units. Maybe they don’t have a clue, maybe they do.
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Re: Any issue running Houghton AC while driving?
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2021, 03:07:50 pm »
There’s two fans the outer most fan catches the wind as you drive. It’s what they claimed happens on their motorhomes.  People, go ahead and do what ever floats your boat. I’m simply passing in what was passed on to me at Advanced RV which is the first company to import the units. Maybe they don’t have a clue, maybe they do.

Still looking for the link, but I had found one that explained that the fans were speed controlled to reduce noise. When traveling, the wind can accelerate a fans speed and create an error condition when the onboard computer notices a mismatch between desired and measured speed. Wont run, but no harm done. Just needs a reset.

The dynamics of the roof airflow might cause this, or not. Try and see. No harm done to the unit when it goes into 'fault' mode and stops. 

@Kevin - If I were in your 'seat', and you NEED to have the AC operating while underway,   I would swap the two units and see if the Houghton works in the front underway. If it does, go ahead and and purchase another for the back. If it doesnt, swap them back. I do the work myself, so the labor $$ wouldnt be an issue. In my old 2006, the AC is a VERY simple R&R. No thermostat wires like later models might have, but I took our old one out, installed it on the trailer roof, then installed our new one in the camper in under 2 hrs, and that was with beer breaks.  :)(:  Took more time getting them up and down from the camper roof than actually installing! Now I would use my tractor bucket  2o2, but I slid them up and down a sloped ladder at that time. Your are on the same roof, so even easier. Health allowing, of course!   (exactly)

  Even if you paid someone $250 each swap (2 hrs at $125/hr rate... ) if it DID work up front, you would have peace of mind knowing for $250.  :-D  If it DIDN'T work in front, it would cost you $500 to find out, and swap them back.  (WH)  Instead of $1000+  purchasing and installing a new one that wont work underway, PLUS the cost to reinstall your old unit.  pyho
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Re: Any issue running Houghton AC while driving?
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2021, 08:15:59 pm »
Volkeman- Not a bad idea to swap rear unit to the front. I would have to figure out how to address the thermostat for the Dometic unit in the rear position. I guess I could just not connect it while testing the Houghton unit in the front position. I have to think about that one.

Maybe Jim Godfrey will chime in on this question. I saw on one of his post that he had two of the Houghton units installed by Phoenix when he purchased his coach.

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Re: Any issue running Houghton AC while driving?
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2021, 08:25:04 pm »
Hi: Sorry I never tried running mine while driving. It is just the two of us and the dash AC is MORE than enough.

That said, you could just take a test run with the rear Houghton running to see how it works out. I suppose there is a slight chance the airflow in the front will be different  but would at least try it before moving thigs around.

I really love my Houghton's but now I see they are available for about half what I paid for them on RecPro.com  pyho
And more options available!
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Re: Any issue running Houghton AC while driving?
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2021, 11:31:13 pm »
Hi Jim-  Thanks for the feedback. The dash air does work well.

Unfortunately the rear ac is not powered by the generator so I can't  test it underway.

I wonder how difficult it would be to rewire the rear unit to run off the generator for testing purposes only. 

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Re: Any issue running Houghton AC while driving?
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2021, 08:02:33 am »
Rewiring it is very easy IF you feel comfortable working in the electric panel.
Just find your two Air Conditioner circuit breakers and swap the two wires between them.
Of course make sure all power sources are off before removing the panel cover.
Let me know if you want help on this.

One advantage of the Houghtons with their soft start and lower running amps is that my generator can run both of them easily at the same time.
I added a jumper in the transfer switch so that when the generator is running, both legs of the panel are powered by it.
This allows both to run on generator together with room left for other small loads.
Total load for two AC was about 22 amps on a hot day, generator rated for 33amps.
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Re: Any issue running Houghton AC while driving?
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2021, 09:52:30 am »
Sounds like rewiring is by far the easiest option for testing underway and a good option if I replace my front Dometic with another Houghton.

Thanks guys for all of your input on this one. This forum sure is great!

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Re: Any issue running Houghton AC while driving?
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2021, 10:59:47 am »
Sounds like rewiring is by far the easiest option for testing underway and a good option if I replace my front Dometic with another Houghton.

Thanks guys for all of your input on this one. This forum sure is great!

Kevin

 :)(: :)(: CHEERS to Jim Godfrey for thinking INSIDE the box.  roflol  Thats a helluva good alternative. A LOT less work, and doesnt break the roof seal.  2o2   :)(:  :)(:

For that matter <banjo music fades in >  :lol ... could redneck it even more by opening the 110V junction boxes on both AC's on the roof inside. Using an appropriate jumper ( old 12ga extension cord with ends cut off, length of 12/3 romex) connect the supply for the front AC to the rear AC. Test.


The only variable I see unsatisfied is the position of the unit. Airflow around the front unit is gonna be different than around the rear.   May or may not matter.   I SURELY would follow Jims lead, and just do a rewire to test underway. Should it fail to work underway , you will know for a minimum of effort.  (cheer)
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Re: Any issue running Houghton AC while driving?
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2021, 11:01:22 am »
Is the roof thickness on a PC adequate for this unit?

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Re: Any issue running Houghton AC while driving?
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2021, 06:47:47 pm »
Thickness is adequate. Mine fits fine.