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Re: Trailer hitch skid caster wheels.
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2021, 05:16:51 pm »

Having spent over 12 1/2 years as an accident reconstruction "expert" as part of my job as a police officer, including several specialized courses in vehicle and accident dynamics... (all of which is over 30 years ago)... take this for what it is worth...




Volkemon, if I understand correctly, you are using a 3 1/2" drop hitch, and are looking protect the hitch when dragging?  Specifically the threaded shank of the ball?  If not, what are you trying to protect?  Wheels on the hitch frame protect the underside of the RV from dragging.  I'm guessing your hitch is the lowest point and the underside of the RV is safe.  I have used drop hitches in the past that have drug.  I had a 6" drop hitch on a previous class A RV.  I just let it drag and it held up fine.  what about adding another nut to the shank so it would drag?  Or add some washers to lower the nut.  do you weld, or know someone who welds?  You could weld a bracket and a roller on the bottom in front of the shank and nut.

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With the clearances I have, I feel a skid plate welded to the underside of the ball will be the best bet.  A roller would be hitting a lot.

Not so much to 'protect' the ball stud, but to make for a smoother slide over whatever I am bottoming out on.  Avoid damaging things.  I feel that the wheels mounted on the cross bar would be of little value in my setup, as the ball stud would be inches into the pavement before the wheels ever touch down.  With so many years of experience here on the forum, I thought someone had seen a solution.


You do not want a skid plate, you want more rollers on the tow bar.  And, if possible the the trailer ball not screwed to the tongue but welded both top and bottom.  Or, as an alternative, higher tow arms (and ball socket) on whatever you are towing.

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Re: Trailer hitch skid caster wheels.
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2021, 08:45:47 am »
Sorry for the photoshopped image, but this is my idea of a solution.  Weld a bracket and roller in front of the hitch.  You could probably find a roller that doesn't drop down much lower than the ball nut.  Amazon has several weld on rollers.
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Re: Trailer hitch skid caster wheels.
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2021, 09:02:16 am »
Sorry for the photoshopped image, but this is my idea of a solution.  Weld a bracket and roller in front of the hitch.  You could probably find a roller that doesn't drop down much lower than the ball nut.  Amazon has several weld on rollers.
You could refine and patent that...I searched and could find nothing like that.
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Re: Trailer hitch skid caster wheels.
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2021, 10:40:23 am »


  And, if possible the the trailer ball not screwed to the tongue but welded both top and bottom.  Or, as an alternative, higher tow arms (and ball socket) on whatever you are towing.

Just my opinion.

We were thinking alike on the ball... Traded with my buddy for one.  2o2



Be tough to raise the tow arms, looks like they already got all they could in the initial design. Its a miracle that the lower edge shows no serious contact.  (nod) Those chain link ends would be a tattletale..



BUT....   I do have these holes on either side that will accept 2" square tubing...



And I have some 2000# casters with really strong wheels. I could weld brackets to the 2" tube and position them like they are mocked up here...  More design time needed.  :)(:



Here is a closeup of the wheel. Roller bearings in the middle, then the brass outer bushings take the load when it gets really heavy.  I have four total, so a couple spares should I really chew one up. Then again, if they dont work I can slide the tube out of the receiver and re-design.




@ JHobbes - good mockup on the hitch roller.   (cheer) tymote  I may see if it works out to match up with the 'step' in the trailer tongue.   Like 2 Lucky, I had searched and found nothing like it.  I may just weld up a smoother transition on the trailer and let it be the skid, if 'the scrape' happens.  MORE DESIGN TIME!   :)(: roflol






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Re: Trailer hitch skid caster wheels.
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2021, 01:46:47 pm »
That's a good plan.  My only question is will those wheels hold up with that much pressure put on it. 

Looks like you are putting a wheelie bar on the back of your PC.   :-D

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Re: Trailer hitch skid caster wheels.
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2021, 01:53:30 pm »

I have some 2000# casters with really strong wheels. I could weld brackets to the 2" tube and position them like they are mocked up here...  More design time needed.  :)(:



 Roller bearings in the middle, then the brass outer bushings take the load when it gets really heavy.  I have four total, so a couple spares should I really chew one up. Then again, if they dont work I can slide the tube out of the receiver and re-design.


 MORE DESIGN TIME!   :)(: roflol

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Re: Trailer hitch skid caster wheels.
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2021, 02:31:42 pm »
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Re: Trailer hitch skid caster wheels.
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2021, 03:35:20 pm »
Tow arms raised (or hitch latch) like a gooseneck.

Although I do really like the drag bars!  pyho
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Re: Trailer hitch skid caster wheels.
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2021, 06:23:39 pm »
I found this pic in an article on skid rollers but it had no info or link to the maker.
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Re: Trailer hitch skid caster wheels.
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2021, 10:05:18 pm »
That's a good plan.  My only question is will those wheels hold up with that much pressure put on it. 

Looks like you are putting a wheelie bar on the back of your PC.   :-D

I know. I am gonna have to do an air dam on front now.

I dont expect to carry the GRWR on either wheel. ( If I find myself in such a position I would be looking at serious failure of the loose nut behind the steering wheel.  :lol )

Not sure the hitch would sustain an upload load of 4000#+  anyway...  :help

I am hoping that they will support that first ton+, and  prevent damage. They are rated at a ton as a caster, I bet the failure point of the wheel is higher. It's great living by the space center.  :-D

But if the idea is a flop, I will pull them off the camper and try again. I have no doubt any energy used to destroy them will be saved from my coach.  2o2  (cheer)  And until then it looks like I have Big Daddy Wheelie Bars!   (cheer) (cheer) (cheer)

And now I need to do the straight out the back exhaust with the chrome resonator tip.    (exactly) 

Right after I get the &^%#$ contractor back to work on our now multi-YEAR improvement project  pyho
 
2 Lucky - Nice find!    And good design IMO.  2o2 2o2   
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Re: Trailer hitch skid caster wheels.
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2021, 07:14:52 am »
I found this pic in an article on skid rollers but it had no info or link to the maker.

Good find 2Lucky.  So much for me patenting it and making millions.   :'(

I tracked it down.  RoadMaster makes this Roller Ball Mount in 4, 6, 8, and 10 inch drop hitches. (https://www.roadmasterinc.com/products/accessories/hitch/roller.html)   

etrailer.com has them.  https://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Accessories_and_Parts-pt-Roller_Ball_Mount.aspx

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