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Deciding to not Tow with a 2100?

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Re: Deciding to not Tow with a 2100?
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2018, 05:14:49 pm »
Ron, I have the Ultra Gauge instead of the Scan Gauge but they work the same.  I was wondering what you display on yours?

I have:
RPM
Ambient temp
current fuel mileage
Transmission temp
Radiator temp
I display MPH, RPM, MPG, and TPS
I had tried displaying other information, but settled on those 4 to aid with fuel economy.....and they are more interesting to me than the other data.
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Re: Deciding to not Tow with a 2100?
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2018, 10:02:54 am »
Jatrax, most people out here as you witnessed ignore speed signs. However on surface streets their not as easy going with people who speed. Also should you be the one they do pick out on the freeway doing 80the tickets out here are pricey.  Regions determine but as an example a rolling stop is usually around $600. And speeding tickets can run well over that. Speeding while towing my guess would be in the 400-600 dollar range. I stay within the 5 mph over rule when towing. I’d rather spend it on gas than the courts.

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Re: Deciding to not Tow with a 2100?
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2018, 10:18:05 am »
Ron I have the scan gauge II as well.  I keep an eye on avg mpg only in that I’m curious. I have owned everything from a 47 Ford with a flat head to Peugeot’s , bmws , GM, Honda, Acura, Nissan and many Fords and they are all the same. No jacket rabbit starts, take your time getting up to speed, use that cruise control on the flats, never use cruise control to resume speed or up steep grades and drive at a reasonable speed and you’ll get the optimum mileage out of what ever your driving. The one variant can be what is that speed curtain where the mileage falls off. That varies on each vehicle. I.e. My gold wing anything over 70 and the mpg dropped by 10 mpg yet on my victory tourer I could pull to 80 before it fell off, my smart car the cut is at 70 and so on it goes.

I monitor my water temp and my transmission temp. I learned from there that my PC needed a Hot flush at 30,000 miles rather than the 60,000 Ford States.

In the full tank none stop tests I’ve done I have been surprised at how accurate the scan gauge is on the mpg read out. It’s always been within a tenth or less and that could be nothing more than the variant in each fill.pretty impressive plug and play tech.


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Re: Deciding to not Tow with a 2100?
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2018, 12:23:24 pm »
OP, we have a 2100 now for about a year and a half and have never towed nor want to. When we leave camp to explore the things we leave at the camp site are minimal, maybe a lawn chair or two, a grill or such. Never had a problem. We are not big city type folks so don't know about parking there, but have been to many "bergs" or small towns and never had an issue. We do have a handicap placard and maybe that has helped avoid issues. I don't know.
But to answer your question. No, we don't tow.
Jack is what we call our PC 2351D, and he has taken us from campers to RV'ers and loving it. We're no longer Team Bob. Just Jack the RV!

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Re: Deciding to not Tow with a 2100?
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2018, 02:31:39 pm »
Desiring additional operating information in our gauge-deficient 2002 PC 2100, I purchased a OBD-II code reader which supports a bluetooth connection.  Reader information is sent to a seldom-used 7" Android tablet.  Torque Pro is the app which displays the information.  Set-up was not difficult.  Also purchased a tablet/phone stand which fits into a standard cup holder.  With this arrangement I now have access to RPM, speedometer, water temperature, transmission fluid temperature, intake air temperature, and battery voltage.  With the software it is possible to have multiple screen pages displaying extensive information.  (Not my set-up as I wanted only the basics).
Caution:  Tablet should be positioned where it can be viewed without distracting the driver. Safety first.

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Re: Deciding to not Tow with a 2100?
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2018, 06:08:10 pm »
Crop duster, great way to make use of an unused tablet.  Kewl

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Re: Deciding to not Tow with a 2100?
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2018, 07:05:55 pm »
Thanks Joseph,

I neglected to mention that any gauge can be also set with an alarm.  I can ignore a more frequent check on the gauges, knowing that I'll hear an alarm if either water temp or transmission fluid temp reaches a predetermined setting.   Slowed down a few times during mountain travel when the alarm sounded.


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Re: Deciding to not Tow with a 2100?
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2018, 10:58:46 am »
We pick up our new PC 2100 at the end of May and are getting some great advice from all of you forum members.  Earlier we asked a question about boondocking with a PC, and have one more question today...
We chose the 2100 because we think that it will be small enough to go almost anywhere.  We have decided to not pull a tow vehicle and need some more advice from experienced 2100 owners who do not tow.
1)  If you do not tow and have a 2100, what has been your experience parking on city streets, museums, tourist sites and restaurants, etc?
       If there is a 'no RVs sign' does that also mean us in a 21ft 2100?  Should we explain to the owners and ask for permission?
2)  When you break camp for the day, do you take everything (chairs, carpet, grill, etc.) with you or do you feel comfortable leaving these items at your site?
       Have you ever had anyone tamper with your possessions while you are gone?
3)  If you boondock in more remote locations, have you ever had someone occupy your site while you are gone for the day?
       Do you think that a "this site is occupied by ---" sign will help?
Of course any other suggestions  you 2100 owners can give us from your experiences will certainly help these two newbees.  And, of course advice from owners of larger PCs  who do not tow will be appreciated.
Thanks so much,
Alan and Joan
Sorry we haven’t responded to this thread...we’ve been without “gadgets”for a while.  Have you verified that your rig has a 40 gallon fuel tank? If PC installed the 55 gallon fuel tank, your grey water tank defers to 23 gallon due to space limitation.  We can go 3 days dry camping comfortably with our 2100 and Ron is correct that with driving and exploring each day don’t worry about your batteries.  We obey all signage wherever we go and in that way never worry about parking.  We lock up what we can when leaving a site and take what we can’t.  We put a sleeve over a pedestal saying “occupied” in a state campground.  As far as parking your rig...never a problem, shopping centers (small and large) side streets, neighborhoods, visitor centers etc.
As an aside, be real thorough with your walkthrough, read other posts regarding this, and this includes the chassis as well...don’t assume anything,
Enjoy!
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Re: Deciding to not Tow with a 2100?
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2018, 11:37:00 am »
Fun seeker, if the sign says no rv parking it generally isn’t about the size. It’s due to people being slobs, leaving garbage, doing things they shouldn’t and so on that’s brought on the signs. In many cities when you see those signs its generally do to night trade, drugs, prostitution etc and police have to enforce it on all. I found the same thing with motorcycles riding hundreds of thousands of miles. Many places posted no motorcycles. It was do to Adam Henry’s rapping their loud pipes. They don’t come new loud, riders make them that way so even though mine was quieter than a Honda Civic I was given no leeway. So yes in many cases like museums etc it never hurts to ask. It can’t hurt.

I tow so I don’t have to load up for the day to go site seeing etc but I never leave stuff out at the campsite unless it’s locked down. I use 1/8 cable so it’s not unsightly and keeps the opportunities minimal. Never had an issue but I’ve been at camp sights and heard of it happening so pricey items like the bbq are secured?

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Re: Deciding to not Tow with a 2100?
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2018, 08:28:10 pm »
1)  If you do not tow and have a 2100, what has been your experience parking on city streets, museums, tourist sites and restaurants, etc?
       If there is a 'no RVs sign' does that also mean us in a 21ft 2100?  Should we explain to the owners and ask for permission?
2)  When you break camp for the day, do you take everything (chairs, carpet, grill, etc.) with you or do you feel comfortable leaving these items at your site?
       Have you ever had anyone tamper with your possessions while you are gone?
3)  If you boondock in more remote locations, have you ever had someone occupy your site while you are gone for the day?
       Do you think that a "this site is occupied by ---" sign will help?


(1)  We do not tow with our 2100.  We have had no problems getting the rig into most larger parking areas.  However, we avoid the places where we would obviously have problems.  We have also parked in outside-the-city locations and used either our bikes or public transportation.  Have never attempted to intrude on a 'No RV Parking' sign.  (Although I have spoken with a few lot owners who agreed to let me park -- and also pay double the listed rate). Many popular tourist attraction have huge parking lots.  Look for the RV parking locations, or park far away where it won't annoy those who are easily annoyed.

(2) Yes, if you leave for the day it is possible that some low-life riff-raff will occupy your spot.  (The nerve of some people).  When you depart just leave a sign which says "Welcome Devils from Hell Motorcycle Club"..  Another good one is,  "Park Attendant: Sorry, we were not aware of the serious leak in our black water tank".   Never leave anything behind which you cannot afford to lose.  Disclaimer: Yes, I have done this, but utilizing camouflage tricks I learned courtesy of the US Army.

(3) See #2.  When you leave a place -- no matter how much you like it -- recognize that it might not be available upon your return.  But the good news is that the PC2100 can occupy boondock locations which would be unavailable to larger RVs. 
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