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Re: What do you consider a MUST for a Phoenix Cruiser
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2017, 09:04:54 am »
One hundred percent agree with others who recommend full-body paint.  Makes cleaning the rig almost a pleasant experience.

Also love my solar panel (150watt).  Even though I don't often dry camp, when I do, it is nice to see the solar helping to keep the batteries up.  I would think that solar would also help keep the house batteries from draining due to phantom loads when parked and not in use for a while.

Finally, I am happily slide-less and I am not a dainty girl.  I suggest you try to find some RV's (maybe go to an RV show or two) that do not have slides (not always easy to find) and spend some time in one to see if it would work for you or not.

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Re: What do you consider a MUST for a Phoenix Cruiser
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2017, 10:33:17 am »
Ron,
A person size does not have any thing to do with wanting slide out. There are many reasons to want the slide out, such as you want the sofa that makes into  a bed so you can take along other people, like maybe grand kids. The sofa is a much better bed than the dinette. Maybe you just like the extra room when parked.
You could use your words to say one does not need the larger dinette you can get without the slide out. A right sized person would not need the larger dinette. Maybe you are just to tall to sleep on the regular size dinette.

I hate to think of what you would say about all those people in the big class A or 5th wheels with four or five slide outs. They must be really really huge people to need that many slide outs. I am just kidding you at this point, but I how you get my point.

Have a Merry Christmas and a happy new year.
Hi Tom,

I get your point.  The original point I was trying to make is that some people desire the slide out because they "need" the additional elbow room to be comfortable.  (I think I just said it more appropriately)  I agree, there are a number of reasons why people desire a slide out, but elbow room is what everyone talks about.  I think the full size bed would be the front runner up.  Nobody goes for a couch in a no-slide arrangement which leaves me to believe having the couch is not a primary reason.

I am truly sorry if I have offended anyone.  I never meant to do that.  It's not my way of life, but I do say (or rather type) dumb things now and then.  Please give me a little grace on that.

Now back to the original posting question.

The thing about a Phoenix is that you can order one completely stripped down to the bone, or decked out to the hilt.  In all my years, I seen only one stripped down.  The best bang for the buck option is called the "Premium Convenience Package" which lumps in many RV-specific features in one reasonable price.  If you don't get that option, you don't have a fully functional motor home.

We surely love our full body paint job, how great our rig looks because of it.  As Carol says, it also cleans and waxes up easier than the unpainted white gel coat.

We got the surround sound system, originally wondering if that would be worth the expense.  We are happy we got it.

We got the extra awning on the driver side for our dinette.  That was a good decision.  I only wished we got one also for the bathroom window along that side of the motor home.

We got the bigger 14 foot awning, 2 feet bigger than the standard 12 footer of the era.  That was a wise choice.  Get the biggest awning offered.

We spent big money for the thermal pane windows which turned out to be a good decision primarily for sound and no sweaty windows.  We don't camp much in extreme heat or cold so we don't benefit often for those reasons.

Here is a list of things we should have had done when our rig was made for us 10 years ago.  I later did them myself at a higher cost and the inconvenience of it all.
1) The barrel chair at that time was pedestal-mounted to the floor and had a seat belt, I changed the seat to a 3rd captain seat.  Today that seat is a movable Euro chair of which people say good things about.  We like our bolted-down seat being a 3rd high-back reclining passenger seat with a seat belt.  We also like that it adjusts forward, swivels, and reclines, yet it is fixed to the floor, always in just the right place.
2) We originally went with cloth dinette cushions to save money and also thought the cloth would be more comfortable than vinyl.  We later switched to the premium (leatherette/vinyl) cushions which changed the dinette from a place of torture to a place of comfort.
3) I reconfigured our galley to fewer but deep & wide drawers.  Someone seen what I did and had their built PC configured similarly.
4) I highly recommend paying more to get two 6 volt AGM batteries.
5) I don't know what roof antenna Phoenix is installing these days.  I would make sure not to get the crank up one, but rather a small uni-directional digital-specific roof antenna.  I would also consider mounting it one foot rearward, placing it on the main roof instead of the fiberglass cap.
6) I would inquire about the cost to upgrade the steel wheels with wheel covers, to quality Alcoa alloy wheels.  Just get a price to see what it comes to, to make a better educated decision about them.  I am considering Alcoa wheels when it's time for new tires.

And Tom....  A Very Merry Christmas to you and your family as well.
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Re: What do you consider a MUST for a Phoenix Cruiser
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2017, 08:22:19 am »
I consider a spare tire a must.  I have never needed to use ours but it would be a big headache if I needed it and I did not have it right there with me to install.  It may be just for peace of mind knowing I have if I need it.  I assume a spare is still offered as an option?

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Re: What do you consider a MUST for a Phoenix Cruiser
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2017, 08:44:24 am »
I consider a spare tire a must.  I have never needed to use ours but it would be a big headache if I needed it and I did not have it right there with me to install.  It may be just for peace of mind knowing I have if I need it.  I assume a spare is still offered as an option?

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I agree with you JJ.  I forgot Phoenix made the spare tire compartment (with tire) an option.  I wonder how much longer that rear wall with integrated spare tire compartment will remain be available.
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Re: What do you consider a MUST for a Phoenix Cruiser
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2017, 09:31:51 am »
Back to the original post. Some of my options have been mentioned but will post anyway. We picked up our new 2017 Extended 2552 in August. We elected o have the 2552 extended as I am 6'3" and the beds were too short. I now have an 80 inch  bed. The bed is slightly narrow but after several months of use, I don't think the power beds would be useful to us. Also had a higher dome installed in the shower. (nice) Thermo pane (double pane) windows are a must for us. Cooler in summer,  warmer in winter and quieter. I also had a switch installed on the dash which allows us to use the dash radio when parked. It takes power from the coach rather than the chassis. Yes, we have a slide. Would not be without one. I had the new style slide seals installed at the factory enroute home for the rally in Sisters and no leaks so far. And the spare. As mentioned, I would not be without a spare. Ever try to get road service going up the Alaska Highway (Alcan) or across Alligator Alley. On a weekend. The DW had some shelves installed in some of the closets. And the full body paint. Looks nicer, easier to wash, and you don't have to keep compounding the fiberglass. You can sit down with Earl and have a good, no pressure conversation about options. He knows his product and has many suggestion worth listening to. Hope this helps.

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Re: What do you consider a MUST for a Phoenix Cruiser
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2017, 09:40:40 am »
 I forgot Phoenix made the spare tire compartment (with tire) an option.  I wonder how much longer that rear wall with integrated spare tire compartment will remain be available.

That spare, and the 'look' it gives really makes the back of the coach.

Our spare is original, never been on the road.

Hey Ron - looking at this picture at your website - https://www.flickr.com/photos/37432012@N08/6173443001/in/album-72157617468317295/

Whats the door (?) below the water heater? mine has unused area behind. 
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Re: What do you consider a MUST for a Phoenix Cruiser
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2017, 11:32:55 am »
I forgot Phoenix made the spare tire compartment (with tire) an option.  I wonder how much longer that rear wall with integrated spare tire compartment will remain be available.
Hey Ron - looking at this picture at your website - https://www.flickr.com/photos/37432012@N08/6173443001/in/album-72157617468317295/

Whats the door (?) below the water heater? mine has unused area behind.  
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Re: What do you consider a MUST for a Phoenix Cruiser
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2017, 02:15:34 pm »
Lots of great suggestions, full body paint etc.  For me if I was going to spend more than a month or 6 weeks living in it I would say start by not getting the 2552 and go larger. I also would not get the twin beds unless your both no taller than 5’6”.  I know they have the power bed available in the 2552 but it restricts you to that matress and at first sight it looks nice but it darn sure doesn’t look comfy.

We typically are never on the road much over a month and I wish I had a bigger unit. Mostly for the larger bed options.

I guess for us it comes down to we only use ours to camp. Living in it for 2 to 3months I would want more comfort.
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Re: What do you consider a MUST for a Phoenix Cruiser
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2017, 03:19:45 pm »
I worry about the handling of a larger unit and the number of slides. Would love to hear from longer RV owners about the handling.  Most of the units I see for sale are the 2910 with an occasional 2552, 2350, & 3100.

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Re: What do you consider a MUST for a Phoenix Cruiser
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2017, 08:31:20 am »
First would be to Clean the Shop then you can find what you are looking for and see what you are doing. When we were there in late July it looked like a junk yard.  Too many usable and not usable items are just tossed aside so there is no way to tell what is new or not....was one shop that was organized but others were a mess...Then you can function in a better manner.  Standardize  installs. And the unit needs 17" tires. These 16"s are too small. Might need a different entry step with that adjustment. The SS covers turn and to check the tire air you have to remove the wheel covers. Need aluminum covers.  The  2910 shower install needs to be taller since you step up to get in shower and that makes operatoin handles low. That means if you have nice. Single handles like we ordered you can turn off the water when you move in the tiny shower without meaning to.  We ordered an outside drivers side light and were shocked to see it installed  on top of the bedroom window so now awnings cannot be installed without a big overhaul. the light should have been in a non slide area since it was to light side area grounds.  And automatic leveling jacks would be nice. I know level but still takes some work to make sure things are level. Everything
works better level even holding tanks and doors . Long winded enough for now. Merry Christmas

P S. Longer units are usually easier to handle than shorter.  And like automobiles may ride better. Our 31 ft unit works fine... My past unit was 41 ft so my driving experience is beyond a 4 wheeler . P
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Re: What do you consider a MUST for a Phoenix Cruiser
« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2017, 02:46:11 pm »
we have a 2015 2552. Stock suspension from the factory.  No complaints, we were surprised how well it drove after reading the forum. The ride is ok, It’s a truck remember. We have a slide and dinette with ultra leather seats, it’s comfortable. Back to driving—it goes straight down the road, we hardly notice when a truck goes by, pretty much like our Tiffin bus. We just finished our third 5 month trip no problems at all. overall we got 9.5 mpg. As an experiment we stayed in tow/haul all the time and were surprised at the mpg. It’s got 13700 miles on the clock and the mpg was a little improvement over last year. We tow a crv. Aluminum wheels look good however with them you are buying a new hobby, called polishing the wheels. not fun. If you enjoy your new rig as much as we do you’ll be happy.


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Re: What do you consider a MUST for a Phoenix Cruiser
« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2017, 04:40:52 pm »
Aluminum wheels look good however with them you are buying a new hobby, called polishing the wheels. not fun.
Hi Dave,

I am curious.  Why do you feel cleaning alloy wheels for a PC will be more work than cleaning the Phoenix-provided wheel covers?  We have alloy wheels on our other vehicles and they clean up very simple and easy as long as they are simple in their design and pattern.  The style of the Alcoa wheels are very simple with no nooks & crannies as shown below.  It looks like they would be extremely easy to clean.  What am I not considering?

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Re: What do you consider a MUST for a Phoenix Cruiser
« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2017, 06:35:02 pm »
well, the polishing paste and drill motor and the mess was too much for me. We had coated  aluminum wheels on one rig but it helped however it didn’t shine like the others. It just seemed like a chore that wasn’t worth the effort.

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Re: What do you consider a MUST for a Phoenix Cruiser
« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2017, 06:50:04 pm »
I worry about the handling of a larger unit and the number of slides. Would love to hear from longer RV owners about the handling.  Most of the units I see for sale are the 2910 with an occasional 2552, 2350, & 3100.

My 2015, 2551 handles wonderfully, the 2552 should be identical as it has a longer wheelbase and is about 2' longer overall.

I should add something about a slide:

A slide that is IN is almost equal to no slide and when properly IN, I have not heard of one leaking.   So if you're parked and worried about leaking... just put the slide in.

If you need more room... When it's done raining, put the slide OUT.  That is something a no-slide unit can't do... You will always have exactly the same amount of room.

On my 2551, passenger side twin is 74" and my 6' body has zero problems fitting in.   The driver side twin is 68" long, plenty of room for my 64" long wife!

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Re: What do you consider a MUST for a Phoenix Cruiser
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2017, 04:58:34 am »
Starting late 2006, Phoenix went from one house battery to two and added a whole house inverter supplying 110V throughout the coach when dry camping.  That is where the two batteries are mounted.  Click HERE and also HERE to see some pictures of the battery compartment.  Late 2006 to current day, it's like that.

Well isnt THAT nice.  (nod)

I had read of you having 6V deep cells, and i 'assumed' they both fit tight in the compartment that houses the current 12V (in my coach).

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