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PC 3100 - What's not to like?

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Sarz272000

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Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like?
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2016, 07:25:38 am »
Ron
Now that's what I'm talkin about! We would love the arrangement you describe. It should solve the weight issue. If PC made it an optional configuration and not custom the cost should be less than a 2910T or 2910D. Now that would be a fine Christmas present!

Merry Christmas to all!

Ron
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Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like?
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2016, 10:05:01 am »
Quote from: Sarz272000 on December 22, 2016, 07:25:38 am
Ron
Now that's what I'm talkin about! We would love the arrangement you describe. It should solve the weight issue. If PC made it an optional configuration and not custom the cost should be less than a 2910T or 2910D. Now that would be a fine Christmas present!

Merry Christmas to all!

Ron
Ron/Sarz

You might be pleasantly surprised as to Phoenix's charge for a rear captain's bed.  It is surely worth a call to Earl.

And a Merry Christmas to all from me too!
Ron Dittmer
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Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like?
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2016, 10:31:23 am »
Quote from: gradygal on December 22, 2016, 06:51:30 am
Ron,
This picture is of a "custom" 2910. One slide and twin beds in the rear--just like ours!
Nice Gradygal!
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Bruce

Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like?
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2016, 12:08:53 pm »
The more I look at the "custom" 2910 the the more I like it!  Wish we were in the process of buying a new PC.
Two questions I would have:
1.  Does having the rear twin bed on the passenger side eliminate the large outside storage there?
2.  Is there any full-length closet space?
--Bruce
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Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like?
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2016, 03:09:41 pm »
Bruce,

We had a 2351 before we had our 2910 built. I cant say for sure but I think the outside storage on our 2910 is the same depth as the 2351 but it's much longer. I will try to get you a few pictures of both the inside and outside storage.

Unfortunately there are no full length closets with this layout. I can post a few pictures of the closets as well.

Dave
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David Rotelle

Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like?
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2016, 03:35:02 pm »
Bedroom cabinets 2910 rear twin
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David Rotelle

Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like?
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2016, 03:37:02 pm »
Storage under passenger side bed.
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David Rotelle

Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like?
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2016, 03:38:52 pm »
outside passenger side storage 2910 rear twin bed.
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Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like?
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2016, 07:37:47 pm »
Having owned both a 2551S and a 3100 I can say the 3100 is a much better handling coach.  The longer wheel base makes for a much better ride and handles much better compared to the 2551.  The extra weight of the 3100 tones down the rough ride of the E-450 under the 2551.  In my four years of ownership of the 3100 I only dragged the rear end once.  Fully loaded with fuels and water the GVW was 930 lbs under max and both axles were within weight limits.  I would have some concern that with an additional slide and dual pain windows you might then be pushing the GVW.  The only issue with the longer wheel based 3100 is the turning radius is very significant, like you need a football field to turn her around.  I added all of the suspension goodies and that made for a very well behaved coach.  best of luck
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Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like?
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2016, 08:24:53 pm »
Thank you David Rotelle for the pictures.

It appears there is a carpeted enclosure running through the passenger side under-bed storage.  It must be the drain pipe from the kitchen or bathroom along that wall to get over to the waste tank in back below the floor.  I think it is kept above the floor to protect it from freezing.

Very interesting!

Is the fresh water tank placed under the driver side bed with a little inside storage available?
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Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like?
« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2016, 09:42:43 pm »
Quote from: Sarz272000 on December 21, 2016, 11:29:39 pm
The yellow CCC rating is not accurate. Tom Hanlan summarized CCC very well in another thread. They do not weigh each unit that is built.

Ron
I have owned 4 motorhomes: 3 Class A's from Tiffin [Allegros] and 1 Class B+, my current PC 2552. I had all my units weighed and the CCC supplied by both the factories were accurate, including my 2552.  Now, shame on PC if they are supplying false info to customers.
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Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like?
« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2016, 11:36:17 pm »
Thank you David for the photos of your cabinets and storage bins.
You are a Gem. 2o2
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Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like?
« Reply #42 on: December 23, 2016, 06:57:11 am »
The only thing that I dislike about our 2910 is the lack of a wardrobe. I am making do but it would be so much nicer to have a wardrobe like the 2552. We will be living in our PC in Boothbay Maine for 5 months this coming summer. A hanging locker would be Very nice to have.

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Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like?
« Reply #43 on: December 23, 2016, 08:32:44 am »
We drove our 2910 from south east PA to south west FL this week pulling a 16' enclosed trailer. I really like the way the cruiser handles it rolls down the road so nice. If I had to choose between our Subaru Outback and Cruiser to drive long distance I'd opt for the cruiser, it drives that nice!

The only suspension modifications we made were the KONI FSD shocks and rear Firestone air bags. Also we asked Phoenix Cruiser to have the front end aligned before we took delivery.

As for the Air Bags, when we got home to PA after taking delivery of our coach in March I noticed the drivers side rear was close to two inches lower than the passenger side. When I spoke to Earl about it he told me that they did not think the drivers side would need extra spacers because of eliminating the extra slide.

The Air Bags were a good way to level the rear end. I had them on our Born Free's and like the ability to adjust the bags dependent upon our needs.

As to the point raised of the longer coach driving well.....I agree........I won't tell you how many stops we made on our way to Florida.....besides Cracker Barrel and Fuel stops :)  ............Let's just say I could drive and drive and drive :)

Dave
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Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like?
« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2016, 09:41:07 am »
My wife and I are visiting the factory next Tuesday.  We get to see a new 3100 and a 2910D before they take them to the Tampa RV show.  I should be able to "visualize" the 2910 Twin Bed with the help of these great pics.

So far, looking at the floorplans, my wife is thinking she won't like the kitchen layout of the 2910.  Especially with the slide in.  I think I might end up liking the 3100 bath better too.  Although, if you have a guest staying in the 3100 you have to walk between the beds to get to the potty.  :-[

Always trade-offs.  We will also get a change to sit in a Dinette, Euro Chair and Sofa.  Seating comfort is a big deal for us.  So many RVs have seating that looks nice but feels like non-supportive mush.  We shall see what the PC stuff is like.  It will take my wife about 5 nanoseconds to know if she likes it or not!  >( 

We have owned Lazy Daze and Born Free Class Cs.  The Lazy Daze has very very comfy sofas using a high density foam structure.  PC talks about "memory foam" in all the videos.  My experince with memory foam has been negative so far.  Hot and a feeling of sinking into it rather than being supported by it.

Any comments on the seating in the newer models?

Nccampguy
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