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Refrigerator won't work on Propane
« on: August 29, 2016, 09:44:20 am »
Ever since I've own my 2551 PC, I have had problems with a Fault code when I switch over to propane .  I did have it to RV dealer last season and he said it was working for him after blowing out the lines, etc.   Well that did not last long.   I do not drive down the road with the gas on anymore as it will not stay on if I did.  What  do I look for and be able to clean it out myself.  There must be a cobweb in there somewhere that is creating the problem. So I just use the electric for the fridge.  I took the cover off at the top and saw that the former owner had put a piece of plywood as a baffle but I did not unscrew it to see what was behind it .    Any Suggestions?

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Re: Refrigerator won't work on Propane
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2016, 10:51:58 am »
I wonder if your fridge requires a lot more time and attempts to clear the repeated fault code.  I say this because when I awake our fridge after a long period of no-use, I first have to get the stove burning gas well, then when starting up the fridge, it goes through a number of attempts with faults before what I think is a consistent flow of gas that gets it going and keeps it going.

Our fridge is not inside a slide-out.  I understand that when the fridge "IS" inside a slide-out, it can sometimes be even more finicky because of the long flexible gas line along with the side-discharge exhaust out the wall rather than through the roof.  It may be worth a call to Kermit.  The 2010 model year you own was the first year of the fridge included inside the slide-out for models 2350 and 2551.  Phoenix might have learned something that first year and modified their installation to address the problem.

Now that I think about it more, I seem to recall others with a similar problem back when the 2010 was introduced.  Call Kermit.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2016, 11:49:24 am by ron.dittmer »
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Re: Refrigerator won't work on Propane
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2016, 02:50:58 pm »
We have had several problems with our refrigerator over the years and the Service Manual has proven to be invaluable.

Here is a link to the Norcold service manual for several refrigerator models.

http://bryantrv.com/docs2/docs/ncoldnnewnseries.pdf

The refrigerator in our 2012 2551 is Model Number N621 hopefully it is the same model in your 2010 2551.  The section in the Service Manual tilted "N62X/N82X DISPLAYED FAULT CODES" provides a good troubleshooting flow chart based upon the error code you are getting.  This might be a good starting place to help you clear this problem.

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Re: Refrigerator won't work on Propane
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2016, 03:06:22 pm »
I wonder if your fridge requires a lot more time and attempts to clear the repeated fault code.  I say this because when I awake our fridge after a long period of no-use, I first have to get the stove burning gas well, then when starting up the fridge, it goes through a number of attempts with faults before what I think is a consistent flow of gas that gets it going and keeps it going.

Our fridge is not inside a slide-out.  I understand that when the fridge "IS" inside a slide-out, it can sometimes be even more finicky because of the long flexible gas line along with the side-discharge exhaust out the wall rather than through the roof.  It may be worth a call to Kermit.  The 2010 model year you own was the first year of the fridge included inside the slide-out for models 2350 and 2551.  Phoenix might have learned something that first year and modified their installation to address the problem.
  At one of the reunions
Now that I think about it more, I seem to recall others with a similar problem back when the 2010 was introduced.  Call Kermit.
At one of the PC reunions I talked to Kermit personally and he was of no help believe it or not. 

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Re: Refrigerator won't work on Propane
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2016, 03:08:55 pm »
We have had several problems with our refrigerator over the years and the Service Manual has proven to be invaluable.

Here is a link to the Norcold service manual for several refrigerator models.

http://bryantrv.com/docs2/docs/ncoldnnewnseries.pdf

The refrigerator in our 2012 2551 is Model Number N621 hopefully it is the same model in your 2010 2551.  The section in the Service Manual tilted "N62X/N82X DISPLAYED FAULT CODES" provides a good troubleshooting flow chart based upon the error code you are getting.  This might be a good starting place to help you clear this problem.

Barry

This is the model that there is a class action suit for Norcold.  I will check on the manual that you mention. Appreciate the help..

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Re: Refrigerator won't work on Propane
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2016, 03:27:24 pm »
I wonder if your fridge requires a lot more time and attempts to clear the repeated fault code.  I say this because when I awake our fridge after a long period of no-use, I first have to get the stove burning gas well, then when starting up the fridge, it goes through a number of attempts with faults before what I think is a consistent flow of gas that gets it going and keeps it going.

Our fridge is not inside a slide-out.  I understand that when the fridge "IS" inside a slide-out, it can sometimes be even more finicky because of the long flexible gas line along with the side-discharge exhaust out the wall rather than through the roof.  It may be worth a call to Kermit.  The 2010 model year you own was the first year of the fridge included inside the slide-out for models 2350 and 2551.  Phoenix might have learned something that first year and modified their installation to address the problem.
  At one of the reunions
Now that I think about it more, I seem to recall others with a similar problem back when the 2010 was introduced.  Call Kermit.
At one of the PC reunions I talked to Kermit personally and he was of no help believe it or not.  
Oh, That is too bad.
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Re: Refrigerator won't work on Propane
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2016, 03:37:54 pm »
Every few years you need to clean the area of the refer where the burner is located.

I had a friend help me and I should probably do it again. I can't remember all the steps but I'll bet someone has it written out. (Pg 27 to 32 in manual from link above.)

It was very simple to do and it worked better after it was cleaned.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2016, 03:47:37 pm by keelhauler »



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Re: Refrigerator won't work on Propane
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2016, 02:25:24 pm »
It needs 12v plus propane... if tank is on.. it may need to be turned off and back on in propane mode. I have had a problem.. not with PC yet. And I had to light the stove to make sure propane was moving through the pipes... someone at RV center had suggested that too. And it did work. Good luck. We had to reset our new refrig for the travel home so it would work in propane mode and it finally did. It did well. I had a 12 v glitch in past and refrig would not work at all in any mode. so takes all kinds of tries to get things in order.
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