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Wood Waterstone

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HWH Levelers
« on: July 06, 2014, 01:43:56 am »
We're considering trading up to a new 2552 possibly this summer.  I would appreciate feedback regarding members experiences with the HWH Levelers.  Do you like the accessory and consider them a good value?  How would you rate their performance (leveling and stabilizing the coach)?  Would you include them again on a new motorhome? 
Thanks for your help!
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Pax

Re: HWH Levelers
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2014, 07:06:43 am »
We love ours!  Leveling takes us all of about 30 seconds.

As far as our experiences with them......they work as advertised and they easily level and stabilize the coach. I only have one complaint, and this may be an individual thing.  To extend the levelers you press the 'up' button.  I guess I'm a bit dyslexic or something, because this took some getting used to.

Value?  Considering how much we are (and will be) using our PC, I think it's a terrific value when considering the alternatives.  Probably depends a lot on how much you will use the rig and what the alternative choices are for stabilizing/leveling. 

   - Mike
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Re: HWH Levelers
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2014, 07:10:52 am »
Wood,

See my post of May 14, 2014. I have Hydraulic HWH levelers that DO NOT automatically level coach. You have to respond to the yellow lights to level unit. If I were to purchase a new (bought this one used) I would definitely go with auto-level vice manual. I would also consider electrical vice hydraulic. Per my post, I had an issue with one leveler. On the positive side, HWH tech was very helpful in diagnosing and guiding me via telecom while I was underneath the coach troubleshooting. Hope this helps!

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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2014, 07:14:10 am »
And then there's the resale value.  You get the use of the levelers while you own the PC, then get a lot of it back when you sell it.   :cool
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TomHanlon

Re: HWH Levelers
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2014, 07:52:05 am »
 I have had hydraulic HWH levelers on my five different motorhomes since 1989. The motorhome before that had electric jacks on it. Here in the mid Atlantic area there are very few level sites, so having levelers is very important to me for comfort. We find that out west the campground seem to have more level sites. So it would be up to you and where you camp if they are important, a nice convince or not worth it.

The electric jacks were quite compared to the hydraulic but much slower. They also required putting grease on the shafts and in the jack to keep them from rusting, while the hydraulic require spraying the springs. The spraying is easier for me.

Welcome to the forum.
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Re: HWH Levelers
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2014, 04:40:50 pm »
Welcome to the site.

We had the manual jacks on our  2008 2350 and when we ordered our  2012 2551 we also had the manual jacks installed.   The manual jacks are not hard to use if you remember the arrows show the direction the PC is moving not the direction of the jacks.  Friends of ours have the automatic jacks and they like that set up.

We think the jacks are worth installing for a few reasons:

1.  No need to carry leveling blocks or pieces of wood.
2.  On a level site extending the jacks will stabilize PC and remove any bounce or sway.
3.  A good resale feature.

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Re: HWH Levelers
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2014, 10:38:48 pm »
We have the HWH jacks on our 2100 and love them.  I don't see that anyone has mentioned that they are not intended to level to the extent you lift one or more tires off the pavement. You still need to carry leveling pads. We boondock/dry camp a lot in national forests where everything is uneven and still must get close to level with the pads, then put on the finishing touch with the HWH levelers. We are out west with lots of wind and they are great at stabelizing so we even use them on totally level sites. As someone else posted, it does take a bit to master all the buttons. We also called the factory early on and they were amazingly patient and helpful.
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Re: HWH Levelers
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2014, 10:56:05 am »
We also have and like the jacks but wish each of them could be individually controlled.
I stress that you NEVER, EVER lift the rear wheels off the ground under any circumstances. I've seen too many rigs either bend or kick the jacks up when they started to roll.
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Re: HWH Levelers
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2014, 12:59:34 pm »
We also have and like the HWH leveling jacks that the factory installed for us. 
The only problem we've had is that one jack (the front driver side jack) almost always fails to extend (drop the jack leg down from its store position) on the first attempt to start the leveling process.  We than hit the "store" button to retract all of the jacks and start over.  It sometimes takes two or three attempts (or some gentle pounding on the jack under the coach) to get this one to extend (make the leg drop down).
The HWH Operators Manual states that the jacks require very little maintenance and the jack rods should not be wiped and do not need to be oiled or sprayed with anything.  But, maybe we need to add a touch of lubrication to the hinge(?) bolt to make the jack leg drop down.  Any suggestions?
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Re: HWH Levelers
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2014, 12:15:40 am »
We don't have hydraulic leveling jacks.  We do it the old fashion way using Lynx leveling blocks.  Every time I pull them out, I wished we bought leveling jacks.  I know we could still get them installed.  I just haven't gotten to that Popeye moment yet.   >( "That's all I can stands and I can't stands no more"  >(
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Re: HWH Levelers
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2014, 10:50:47 am »
Many thanks to Mike, Chuck, GoPhoenix, Tom, Barry, RheaNL, Bob, Bruce and Ron for your thoughtful responses!  I really appreciate the input - and, like most things on an RV, it is clear the levelers require careful consideration regarding their operation and maintenance!  We are hopeful that levelers will be included if we can put an order together!
Thanks again!
Wood
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Re: HWH Levelers
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2014, 07:55:29 am »
Just a note concerning noisy jacks. The HWH factory tech recommended we spray each jack spring with ORDINARY, over the counter, WD40 to quiet that nasty squeal each would emit when being deployed or retracted. Did that and they are much quieter.

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Re: HWH Levelers
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2014, 11:14:53 am »
I am always interested in the post re levelers,,, previous owner had them installed on our 2350,, over $4k ouch,,, I've never used them.. keep using the blocks.   I think I need to go to a local parking lot (concrete) and practice,, For some reason I'm scared to death they will get stuck.... I did extend them once at the storage yard,  Again maybe going out and playing with them a little will give me the confidence to use them
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Re: HWH Levelers
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2014, 11:23:31 am »
Quote from: Sparky on July 09, 2014, 11:14:53 am
I am always interested in the post re levelers,,, previous owner had them installed on our 2350,, over $4k ouch,,, I've never used them.. keep using the blocks.   I think I need to go to a local parking lot (concrete) and practice,, For some reason I'm scared to death they will get stuck.... I did extend them once at the storage yard,  Again maybe going out and playing with them a little will give me the confidence to use them
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Re: HWH Levelers
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2014, 11:24:39 am »
Like all mechcanal things, you should work them every now and then or they will rust and get stuck. I use mine everytime we go camping and once a month during the winter storage. I spray the springs with WD40 every year. I never had any problems with them. Use them a few times and you will not use the old boards except in extreme cases.
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