PC Super C Coming

Tina has informed me that PC will be building a Super C: 

We are in the process of prototyping a Super C… it was under way last year, was put on hold, but is back on…. It is on the Ford F Series chassis. The first floorplan is a rear bath room , murphy bed floorplan.

So if anyone is interested contact Tina at: tina@phoenixusarv.com

Ron Sarzynski

I don't know what to make of an F-series PC.  People complain about the difficulty transfering from the driver seat into the cabin on the E-series.  What will an F-series be like?  Maybe it's a lot easier.

If it is about "load", it seems a lot easier to just install commercial grade E-series tires on the heaviest of PCs and call it a day.

Maybe its about offering a "diesel" and 4x4 without going "Quigley."  Maybe Ford has plans to discontine the E-series.  This is interesting nonetheless.

The PC Super C will be interesting to see for sure.  Recently I inquired about using a PC to stay at a resort near Hilton Head.  They only allow Class A, Class C & Super C.  I sent them a picture of a PC.  They said it was a B+ and not allowed into the resort.  I do not want a CLass A.  Most Class C’s are over loaded with multiple slides.  Super C could work as wiife wants over head bunk and I want better ride. But the deciding factor may be the price. I am also not to eager for a diesel engine.   Love the PC but the standard beds are too short.  I need one that is extended 6 inches.  I would also want liquid springs.  However, that PC is very hard to find as a reasonable price.  RV sellers seem to think their RVs should appreciate instead of depreciate.  Haha

Ron S

Love the PC but the standard beds are too short.

I believe you could get the twin bed on the driver side a lot longer but it would require special ordering model 2552 without the slide-out.  This would imensely increase over-all wall space on that side to accomodate a dinette that utilizes the angled transition wall, maybe delete the pantry, and shift the fridge forward.

Thanks Ron
After PC went from factory direct to dealer sales and basically doubled the price for the same unit I lost all interest in ordering new. 

The PC web site has not been updated in years.  None of the new Transit layouts are on the site.  I am not sure how PC is selling units.  I suppose the dealers have the info.  But I like to see info online without the pressure. 

Have a Great Day!

Ron Sarzynski

After PC went from factory direct to dealer sales and basically doubled the price for the same unit I lost all interest in ordering new.

One of my biggest disappointments with Phoenix was changing from factory-direct to 3rd party sales, i.e. dealerships.  Like you say, prices went way up, nearly doubled since the hand-off from Kermit Fisher.  It also made customizing extremely costly & painful.

I could never afford a new PC today, nor would I want one unless it did not have a slideout (customized).  Back in the day, it was so easy to reach out to people one-on-one and encourage them to connect with the factory.  I did that often, most especially during the great recession to help bolster PC sales to help them survive through it.  It was easy back then because PCs like our special order unit was 25% more than a base model Four Winds 21QB.  Now it is nearly 100% more.

I still promote PCs, but I never talk "value", only "construction" and "quality."  I hope they have the same construction practices, still plumb and wire PCs today as they did in that 2007/2008 presentation.  It would be nice to take another factory tour, though I am not sure how I would be received being that I have no plan to buy a new PC.  I would be taking mental notes of changes, basically comparing their current practices from what I remember them to be back in the day.

One change Phoenix made in recent years, I always thought was a discarded opportunity.  When redesigning the rear wall unit, Phoenix had an opportunity to redesign the spare tire compartment to make it mulit-purpose.  It could have had a rectangular hinged cover to accommodate a spare tire for those who want one, or remove the inner spare tire mounting feature and store zero gravity chairs and of the kind, inside it.  They instead changed it to what it is today with no hope for a spare tire for people who want one, nor items like bulky zero gravity chairs.  It would have been cool for Phoenix to include a pair of zero gravity chairs with "Phoenix Cruiser" embroidered in the headrests.  That would have "caught attention" in RV parks and camp grounds.

Old PC video showing an F600  chassis with LS. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dSyjylUT0Nc

Thanks for sharing that video.  Tina said she would send me an updated “spec” sheet for the Super C.  Prototype is rear bath and Murphy bed.  Should be interesting. 

Ron S

Agreed.. Many thanks for sharing. Did you notice that the F cab was not a cut away and it had a bench seat?  I would think the super C cab would be open to the coach,,, so now I'm wondering who cuts it open? And when?  Seems like it would cause extra cost to get a bench seat for an F chassis and then throw away so much.


My 2 cents here,,, if I were to upgrade to Super C, I would do it for the hauling capacity and get a toy hauling version that had a garage big enough to CARRY a small electric car.  I don't want to tow a vehicle and it would be nice to have the freedom of a car to go sightseeing without breaking camp. With that said... I don't think an F series chassis is ENOUGH of an improvement to enable a toy hauler. I hope I'm proven wrong.


Larry