OCCC for 2100 & 2400

Just saw this one for sale

https://www.rvuniverse.com/listing/for-sale/217356645/2021-phoenix-cruiser-2400-class-b-plus-motorhomes

Call them, have them look at the weight rating label, typically it's on the back of kitchen sink cabinet door or in the top inside  of the bathroom cabinet.  Or get the VIN from the dealer and call Phoenix... With that, they can give you the exact information.

I’ve communicated with that dealership, the OCCC for that particular 2400 is 2,780#. We might go have a look, it’s 10 hours one way from us. We hope they still have it when we’re ready to buy.

Zero confidence in Phoenix USA, have communicated with them as well, and always the same story - if we had one on the lot we could look, but we don’t have any.

Thanks!

Seriously, the manufacturer doesn’t know their own product? How’s this possible? Is it possible the person who took the call didn't understand what you were asking?

Seriously, the manufacturer doesn’t know their own product? How’s this possible? Is it possible the person who took the call didn't understand what you were asking?

Oh they understood what OCCC or CCC was referring to. I think it’s more like nobody ever wanted to know so we don’t keep track of it. So now that somebody wants to know let’s pull numbers out of the thin air.

Again, one RV salesperson I communicated with said the (unspoken) industry standard is 1,000# for a family of 4. Really?!? So once we fill up the fuel and propane tanks, add a half tank of water in case it’s needed en route, and the weight of the humans, there is enough left over for a change of clothes, a six pack of beverages, and a sandwich for each person? Stupid concept. No wonder so many spend tons of money attempting to get their RV to handle better, they’re likely overloaded.

The 2400 in Baton Rouge  is actually a Quigly 4x4 conversion.

I would not worry too much about the OCCC of  a 21 ft or 24 ft PC on the E450 chassis with a 14,500 lb GVWR. But for any B+ or C with slide-outs on a Sprinter or Transit chassis it would be a legitimate concern.  Just my .02

If they buy used it could be on an E-350 chassis or even a sprinter.

The 2400 in Baton Rouge  is actually a Quigly 4x4 conversion.

I would not worry too much about the OCCC of  a 21 ft or 24 ft PC on the E450 chassis with a 14,500 lb GVWR. But for any B+ or C with slide-outs on a Sprinter or Transit chassis it would be a legitimate concern.  Just my .02

Yes I know, I’ve exchanged emails with the dealership.

Not “worried” about anything, however because of the ridiculously tiny CCC of Sprinters and Transits, want to know before purchase, plus as mentioned above some of the older ones could be an E350, toss on there that they don’t always have badges and then you have to find out the GVWR to know.

It’s a simple number that many aren’t concerned with. However, many end up overloading their rig, then whine about how lousy it drives and spend tons of money in an attempt to make it drive better.

If they buy used it could be on an E-350 chassis or even a sprinter.

Exactly … 

I get a chuckle out of how such a simple number, required by DOT and posted in every RV, can be so illusive and people refer to recognize it, or its significance. 

refuse not refer

Quote from: 2 Frazzled on May 07, 2023, 07:46:35 am

If they buy used it could be on an E-350 chassis or even a sprinter.

Exactly … 

I get a chuckle out of how such a simple number, required by DOT and posted in every RV, can be so illusive and people refer to recognize it, or its significance. 

Illusive... "" Something that is illusive is based on an illusion, on something that is not true or real.""  Pretty sure the OCCC is based on reality, however elusive it can be to your searches.

Best of luck with your search.  Especially buying used.   Try posting this question on the PC facebook page, there is a good chance a 2100/2400 owner can chime in.

Quote from: IrisnGerald on May 07, 2023, 08:40:54 am

Quote from: 2 Frazzled on May 07, 2023, 07:46:35 am

If they buy used it could be on an E-350 chassis or even a sprinter.

Exactly … 

I get a chuckle out of how such a simple number, required by DOT and posted in every RV, can be so illusive and people refer to recognize it, or its significance. 

Illusive... "" Something that is illusive is based on an illusion, on something that is not true or real.""  Pretty sure the OCCC is based on reality, however elusive it can be to your searches.

Best of luck with your search.  Especially buying used.   Try posting this question on the PC facebook page, there is a good chance a 2100/2400 owner can chime in.

Illusive was chosen on purpose … 

One RV salesperson I interacted with said that a CCC of 1,000# is the industry standard for a family of four. Really? So depending on the size of the 4 humans, a full tank of fuel and propane, plus a half tank of fresh water there is enough left over for a six pack of beverage, a change of clothes and a sandwich for everyone. 

FB group not much help either. 

Just saw this thread while sitting in our 2100 on Mother's day at Virginia Beach KOA.  I won't try to directly answer question about weight/space in terms of limits.  I can say that we have had our 2100 for about 5 years.  My wife and I are not "campers" per say, we are "road-trippers" and the 2100 has been perfect for us.  We never stay anywhere more than 2-3 nights and we sprinkle in a hotel or two along the way.  With a little creativity and suggestions from this forum and others we have been able to utilize every nook and cranny of this rig to carry everything we need.  Our rig is neat and tidy.  We do use a cargo/bike carrier on the back for our bicycles, but other than that, we manage quite well.  Maybe you should add the Phoenix TRX to your list of PC motorhomes to review.  If you are really concerned about space, go with the bigger model. 

Just my two cents