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Interior LED Light Strips
« on: February 08, 2023, 09:18:50 am »
I will be short and concise.  The LED strips, all of them, magically quit working.  MY PC has been on our RV pad in Rockport TX and plugged in.  When I arrived, some of the strips were ON.  The microwave clock was blinking, which indicates that power had been lost.  Finally got them turned OFF and they worked fine. 

Now, they have suddenly quit working.  The only thing I can think of is I removed each battery cable, one at a time, to brush and clean them.  Everything operating on 12 volts is working fine.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Interior LED Light Strips
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2023, 12:50:02 pm »
Check your circuit breakers and fuses.  Make sure your 12v main cutoff is turned on.  The lights should be 12v circuits.
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Re: Interior LED Light Strips
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2023, 05:22:53 pm »
Barry, I saw that you got an answer on the Facebook site about this issue suggesting pulling/checking 12-volt fuses to "reset".  That sounds like a good place to start to try to correct the problem of your strip lights not turning on.

You may know that these "touch" type strip lights are very sensitive to RFI (Radio Frequency Interference)--not the light itself, but the "touch" circuit for it.  Your initial issue of finding some lights on was certainly the result of a power failure, as you said.  When power is suddenly re-applied to the completely dead 12-volt circuit for these lights, the initial current "surge" though the circuit generates a RFI pulse which activates the touch circuit and turns the lights on.  The same thing happens if (without the engine running) you have your main battery switch OFF and turn it back ON, or if your main battery switch is OFF and you start the Ford engine--in each case when 12 volts is suddenly applied to the circuit these touch strip lights typically turn on by themselves.

I'm not sure WHY the lights most recently remained non-working after you cleaned battery cables (assume you mean the house batteries).  Sure sounds like that particular circuit didn't have voltage, but there are several variables.  Did you remain connected to shore power during that time?  Did you leave the main battery switch ON or OFF?  All I can say for certain is while these lights seem pretty reliable, they are absolutely sensitive to any power manipulation or abnormality on their circuit.
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Re: Interior LED Light Strips
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2023, 09:30:07 pm »
Mike, could it be the house batteries?  I am plugged in to 50amp and all other 12 volt lights work.  Two days ago I changed the oil in the generator.  I was going to start it to get the oil heated up.  When pressing the start button all I got was clicking.  I started the engine and the generator fired right up.  So, if it is the batteries, why would all the 12v lights work, but not the LED strips?  The batteries are approximately 5 years old.

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Re: Interior LED Light Strips
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2023, 10:53:45 pm »
Barry, your description of generator starting definitely sounds like a house battery issue.  Doesn't sound like the batteries were up adequately to crank the generator, but when you started the Ford engine, the additional output from the alternator put you over the hump and the genny started.  Since you said you've had the unit plugged in, your converter/charger should have kept the batteries charged.  Easy enough to check status if you have a voltmeter.  I don't know what type batteries you have--if they're sealed AGMs, electrolyte should be fine; if they're flooded lead-acid (FLAs), I assume you've maintained electrolyte level in the cells--you probably know that the FLAs are subject to boiling dry if they stay on the converter charge for an extended period without water replenishment.  Regarding age--well-maintained batteries of either type should be OK at five years, but the FLAs deteriorate pretty quickly if their electrolyte drops.

Regardless of battery condition, while you're plugged in the converter/charger should be providing adequate system voltage to your 12-volt circuits, and sounds like it is.  Consequently, your 12-volt overhead lights work.  I would certainly agree that means your strip LEDs should be working too.  I know of no reason why bad house batteries could affect just the LED strip units--they pull less current than the ceiling lights and if those work normally the strip lights should.  They do have that sensitive sensing circuit for the "touch-on/off" feature, so to eliminate some crazy reason why the converter/charger could somehow be the culprit for just those lights, you could unplug from your 50 amp and start the Ford engine.  Then your 12-volt circuits would be getting power from the engine alternator instead of the converter-charger.  All lights should also function under that arrangement; I wouldn't expect that to make a difference, but it's easy to check.
 
It really sounds like:  #1--you need to inspect/test your house batteries, and #2--you're just not getting voltage to that strip light circuit, like the 12-volt circuit fuse is blown.  I don't know WHICH 12 circuit they are on, or if they're the only thing on that circuit, but I do know that all are on the same circuit.  If you haven't already, I would carefully check fuses.  You may have pulled and re-installed them (as suggested in that Facebook post), but that wouldn't correct a bad fuse.
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Re: Interior LED Light Strips
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2023, 08:12:31 am »
Thanks for the informative remarks.  I am sitting comfortably at my RV pad in Rockport TX.  I am taking moho back home tomorrow.  I wont try your suggestions until I get it home.  I dont want something to ruin the rest of my stay.