We picked up our 2910D last month - the wife noticed yesterday that the 3 LEDs in the 4-5 o'clock position of one of the two inboard taillights are inop. I sent a msg to Dave - I'm sure they will respond quickly, but I was wondering if anyone else has seen a problem with early bulb failure of the new LED taillights?
Mike
Not uncommon to see individual LED's ('elements') in an LED 'light assembly' not lit. I see them in trucks, buses, traffic lights etc. I did some searching to see if there was a defined limit of just how many elements, or a percentage of elements that do not work that render the entire assembly 'broken'.
With LED monitors, there usually is a dead pixel count that has to be met for a monitor to be considered defective under warranty. I cant seem to find such a clause for vehicle LED's.
Petersen MFG is a well known light manufacturer, so I checked with them.
""LED lights manufactured by Peterson Manufacturing Company ("the manufacturer") and sold under the PM LED, LumenX ®, Great White ® and Piranha ® brands are warranted to the original purchaser against defects in material and/or workmanship for the life of the product. "" seems pretty cut-and -dry, right? But... conditions and exclusions apply..
""• Product failure is caused by the defect or malfunction of equipment or component(s) from a source other than the manufacturer."" is the key. Petersen does NOT make the resistors and LED's that make up an LED light assembly. So... if a few LED's fail to light, and its because either they failed or the resistors used with them did... not a warranty issue.
GROTE company has similar language-
""In no case shall the warranty be extended to defects in materials, components (which includes but not limited to bulbs),....""So... looks like a few LED's out in an array still leaves it 'operational' and not a warranty issue. I would like to see somewhere a percentage, IE: over 30% of elements out defines failure of an array. Little surprised it isnt easier to find.
The 4 inch STT lights on my coach are original, and do not use a standard connector. The connecting wires come right out of the case. They are flaking off insulation, and due for replacement even though they still light.
Seen these on trailer trucks, and I like this style of light - but the picture is a bit confusing. Upper left is running light, upper right is all off. Lower center is running and center brake. I really like the way the running light 'rings' look.
