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hutch42

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« on: December 30, 2016, 01:56:28 pm »
Ive noticed that the PC uses a rather unique slide out system.  Several arms extending out along the sides of slide out.
Is the slide out electric or hydraulic, and what brand is it?

Holding tanks on PC's.  Not that it would be a huge concern, but it appears that most models under 28' only have a 23 gal
grey water tank.  This about 15 gals less then average for a 26'-28' coach.  The 35 gal black water tank is normal size.
Obviously a reason for the smaller grey tank.  Does anyone know if you can get a larger Grey tank?  For us it would mean almost
1.5 days longer (with the extra 15 gals) when dry camping.

Thanks
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keelhauler

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Re: More PC questions
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2016, 02:20:13 pm »
Slide out is Electric, comes with a manual crank for emergencies. Never used mine.

I also hate the small grey water tank. The layout of the coach doesn't allow more room for a bigger tank.

There is a clever way to provide more capacity for grey water. When it is near full, open the grey valve then your black valve and the grey water will flow into the black tank until at same level.

I carry a 50' 3/4" hose that I can attach to the macerator hose. I've dumped blackwater to outhouses and the grey water to nearby rivers.



John

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Re: More PC questions
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2016, 08:05:09 am »
The size of the tank is also determined by the model/location of the bath, etc. Sometimes the black and grey are swapped. The online specs for each model will list the size of each tank. We frequently equalize as stated above by opening the valves as our black fills far slower than our grey. I also do dishes in a Tub-Trug and dump that water down the toilet so it goes into the black tank. If you do this, be VERY careful and make sure you don't dump utensils or other non-macerator friendly items. I like to dump into the toilet THEN open the blade to allow the water to go down. Just one extra chance to catch something I missed and it adds a little soap to the toilet bowl. Our 2552 with rear bath has a smaller grey water and larger black water tank. If we are on extreme water restriction, we also do bucket baths and that water goes down the toilet and into the larger black tank. We haven't camped anywhere we could let the grey water trickle. That would be a nice solution but so far we have had to keep everything in our tanks.

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Re: More PC questions
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2016, 01:25:42 pm »
Great input from keelhauler and 2 frazzled.

Our 10 year old 2350 has the same issue with the gray water tank being the smaller of the two.  Back flushing gray soapy water into the black tank is quite nice because the soapy solution helps to move the serious waste out the black tank.  It also reduces toilet-flush odor.

Some camp grounds permit gray water drainage directly on the ground at your site.  Most often they are primitive wooded sites with a good amount of space between sites.  Be courteous when do so as not to have the water drain a stream onto your neighbor's site.  A slow drain (not turning on your sanicon macerator) will allow time for the water to seep into the ground rather than flow off to a neighbor.

Ron Dittmer
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Re: More PC questions
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2016, 04:57:00 pm »
Good info all around.  Never thought about draining grey (through valve system) into black tank.  I have dumped dishwater
into the toilet.  Good point about keeping it a little cleaner.  Trying to be a little more environment friendly.  Hard to break
a 40 year habit of tossing the dishwater into the bushes.

Glad to here the PC slides have an emergency crank handle.  Have been carrying around the detailed (and complicated) instructions
on how to override the Lippert and Schwintek slides that are on most of the rental RV's we get.  Was even carrying my small Dewalt
driver/drill in lieu of a crank for some of the systems.

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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2017, 08:28:26 am »
We have a remote cabin in Canada. I used a wind generator for several years. The problem was that in the summer doldrums without wind the batteries went dead. I added two 100 watt solar panels to help out and that worked well with four marine batteries. The wind generator went bad a few years ago so added one more solar panel and switched to four golf cart batteries. I have used only two solar panels on my rv and either 2 six volt or two 12 volts marine batteries which seemed to be enough.