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Battery Maintenance 2015
« on: July 05, 2015, 03:09:54 pm »
We are new owners of a PC 2552. Picked ours up in Elkhart this past April 2015. We are about to go on a 2 month trip. We're trying to check the batteries (2 - 6 volt)  BUT when I went to Walmart to look for distilled water, the service guy nearly bit my head off when I asked about distilled water for our batteries. He said all new batteries are made so they don't need water, and they will blow up if water is added.
This is not my favorite chore to begin with, so I am hoping someone in the forum will take pity on us and tell me what we need to do.

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Re: Battery Maintenance 2015
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2015, 03:31:57 pm »
Some batteries have caps you can remove and add water. If so get distilled water at grocery store,walmart, or drug store and bring up to the lower part of the slit in the cell. Other (sealed) batteries have caps you can not remove therefore;you can not add water. If your caps are removable you can take one off and look down into the cell'

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Re: Battery Maintenance 2015
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2015, 03:50:33 pm »
Campmuch,
Yup, that's what I thought. Now to find the distilled water.

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Re: Battery Maintenance 2015
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2015, 04:40:06 pm »
It's with the regular water. Good Luck

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Re: Battery Maintenance 2015
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2015, 09:50:47 pm »
We are new owners of a PC 2552. Picked ours up in Elkhart this past April 2015. We are about to go on a 2 month trip. We're trying to check the batteries (2 - 6 volt)  BUT when I went to Walmart to look for distilled water, the service guy nearly bit my head off when I asked about distilled water for our batteries. He said all new batteries are made so they don't need water, and they will blow up if water is added.
This is not my favorite chore to begin with, so I am hoping someone in the forum will take pity on us and tell me what we need to do.

Thanks!

Patricia & Linda


The guy at Walmart is absolutely WRONG.   You must check and add water, if needed, at least monthly to those Interstate 6v batteries the Phoenix Cruisers come with.

Their caps are are tied together with "levers" (for lack of a better word) that you push on the long ends to loosen all 3 caps at one time.  Same with the second battery.   Put the caps back on and reverse the above to tighten all 3 caps at once.

As others have noted...water level should be at the botton of the split ring.   Never use tap water...distilled water is proper.
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Re: Battery Maintenance 2015
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2015, 07:49:22 pm »
Not that familar with the Interstate 6 volts but I did have sme Trojan 6 volt that had that lever set up for the caps and you did have to keep and eye on the levels.  With that said I did have and 08 Grand Cherokee  diesel that had a large battery that had removal caps, I topped it off (did not overfill) and in less than a week it overflowed and the acid took out the control module.  Service guy said the battery was maintenance free and despite the fact the caps came off water was never to be added, I learned a hard lesson.
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Re: Battery Maintenance 2015
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2015, 06:50:10 am »
Kermit did our walk through when we picked up our Phoenix and told us that our batteries are NOT maintenance free and we would need to watch them and add water, which we do as needed. I don't know if they've changed the type of batteries since then. Kyle, if you see this can you drop a quick note here to tell us if Phoenix has installed any maintenance free batteries?
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Re: Battery Maintenance 2015
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2015, 09:14:23 am »
When we ordered our 2015, maintenance free batteries were an option. I thought they were worth the cost so ordered it that way.

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Re: Battery Maintenance 2015
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2015, 01:02:24 pm »
Patricia & Linda

I became a little confused after reading the posts about battery maintenance.  Not wanting to do something wrong I called Interstate today and spoke to a customer service representative about 6 Volt battery maintenance.  As per their instructions - all 6 Volt batteries require the water level to be maintained except for model GC2-DH-AGM.

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Re: Battery Maintenance 2015
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2015, 04:42:56 pm »
Color me old fashioned, I guess.  Or maybe just prepared.  In any event, I check most everything on our rig before we leave on a trip.  That includes but is not limited to all the appliances to make sure they work with the genset and when plugged in and to make sure the heater, water heater and the refrig work on the propane.   I check the water level in the batteries...every trip.  Since we boondock most of the time, battery management is imperative.  And I do a walk around visual every time we stop on a longer trip, which is about every 150 miles or so between rest stops.  I check the tires visually at each of these travel breaks and use a digital laser thermometer to check all six tires.  That can reveal internal as well as pressure differences and takes literally about  a minute to check all six.  I check the pressure if I have time, otherwise I drive a few more miles before doing so. 

Distilled water is available at almost all grocery stores.  It is cheap and I keep a gallon (less than $2 in our area) in the garage.  I use a food baster to add the distilled water and that little $ 3 baster is for that purpose only.  I monitor the batteries several times a day when boondocking.  You can buy a keen digital meter for this purpose from Amazon like this for less than $8 and hook it up as a dedicated indicator using gator clips.   The parasitic draw is nominal.

http://www.amazon.com/RioRand-Digital-Voltage-Voltmeter-7-5V-20V/dp/B005UWD2J4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1436300546&sr=8-2&keywords=digital+voltmeter+display&pebp=1436300555319&perid=04PBE5VC5SFWDJJA4WG8

These coach batteries are notorious for needing cleaning of the connections.  I use a spoon and put baking soda directly on the affected places and rinse with a hose.  The battery pullout on PCs is perfect to do this very thing.  Then, if necessary, I also disconnect and clean the connections.  Also, you can buy a small can of spray that will help prevent the white electrolytic growth you see on the connections.  Just clean the connections, spray them with this "red stuff" and reconnect.  Get it at any auto parts outfit or Walmart auto area back where they sell vehicle batteries.

Also ---- the old penny trick.  Put a couple of pennies near the connection and take a look a few weeks later.  It will attract the grunge and help keep the connections cleaner in my experience.   In any event, they don't seem to slide off going down the road and they are a cheap treatment.   Just through them away when they get white fuzzed or turn white and green and put down another four cents worth.

When you boondock for extended periods, you really become cognizant of the need to spend a little time with your power source.  With 200 watts of solar I added myself (Renogy from Amazon and a small controller from the same outfit) we can spend as much time in one spot as we wish.  I monitor my little digital gauge two or three times a day and first thing in the morning (particularly if we have been running the heater because it is a 12 volt hog) and if you don't let your voltage get down below 12.0 or maybe a little lower, your batteries last a very long time and you have plenty of juice for running your rig.  

Hope some of these ideas are helpful to someone.  I learned them over the years from others and from trial and error.  I prefer 6 volt golf cart batteries but my PC had 12s and they work just fine.  When they need replacement, I will go to Sams or Walmart and buy a couple of golf cart batteries and hook them together.  Hopefully wiring them in series :-D

Paul
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