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Weight and Tire Pressure, Good News

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Weight and Tire Pressure, Good News
« on: March 16, 2015, 11:07:11 am »
I finally got the time to get individual wheel weights on my PC, which I've been wanting to do since I picked it up last July.  I'm happy to report that fully loaded we are under maximum capacity by 3020 lbs total...1700 lbs under on the front and 1420 lbs under on the rear.  The passenger side was slightly heavier on the front by 100 lbs and on the rear by 280 lbs...probably because that is the side with my refrigerator and largest storage compartment under the bed.  I'm really pleased that my custom floorplan on the 158" chassis turned out to be so well balanced.

So that all means that I can lower my tire pressures a bit, since I've been running with the maximum capacity recommendations, not having any idea previously what I might weigh.  I'll start by just reducing 5 lbs per tire, per trip, until I reach midway between the maximums I've been running and the tire chart recommendations (which are a little lower than I feel comfortable with).  It will be interesting to see if it feels and handles differently.

Oh and I guess I would probably be safe to lower the pressures similarly in my E350 extended van, which has never been weighed but certainly weighs much much less than the PC, and has been running maximum recommended pressures for the entire 14 years I've owned it.

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Re: Weight and Tire Pressure, Good News
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2015, 05:17:34 pm »
Nice details, Ann.  Thanks for posting it!  All I can say, though, is I am surprised that it was the passenger side that weighed a tad more, given the size of those humongous, beautiful dogs who ride behind the driver's seat!

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Re: Weight and Tire Pressure, Good News
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2015, 08:30:10 am »
I wasn't all that comfortable with the tire pressure chart recommendations until I installed my tire pressure sensors (they also monitor and report tire temperatures.) I was amazed watching how quickly and how high the tire temps and pressures rise while driving.

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Re: Weight and Tire Pressure, Good News
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2015, 11:14:34 am »
Mike,
What model of tire pressure monitor to you use?
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Re: Weight and Tire Pressure, Good News
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2015, 11:48:13 am »
Mike, you mentioned how the pressures go up when driving.  For years I have lowered my tire pressure seasonally.  It gets hot here on the Southern Plains and in the Southwest.  Driving highway speeds for a few hours during July or August, it is amazing how much additional pressure is in your tires.  I don't have a monitor system but I carry a quality guage and a laser thermometer.  I check the temps every few hundred miles on long trips because some tire problems are most evident by increasing temperatures and will not necessarily be reflected in pressure.   Or at least, that is what a couple of really good tire dealers have told me. Just a thought to pass along. 

I also lower the pressure in my Jeep Grand Cherokee for the summer months.   

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Re: Weight and Tire Pressure, Good News
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2015, 12:13:19 pm »
Tire pressure should be checked cold, i.e. in the morning before driving.  Letting out air during a trip due to heat of road friction could over deflate the tire.  Better to kick the tires or slap with a wood dowel to verify inflation and feel the tires for excessive heat upon rest stops.

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Re: Weight and Tire Pressure, Good News
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2015, 12:24:36 pm »
Bruce:

Mine is the TST Model TM-507SG.

I misspoke in an earlier post....the pass-thru sensors don't allow you to fill the front tires due to the clearance of the wheelcovers.  I need to unscrew the sensors up front.  Just takes a second.

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Re: Weight and Tire Pressure, Good News
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2015, 05:32:02 pm »
Mike,
Darn, I remember your earlier post saying that you could add air to the front tires without removing the sensors and that's what I was thinking when I asked for the brand of yours.

I'm using a set of Pressure Pro sensors on our PC that we had before and used on our previous RV.  It's difficult for me to get my fingers on them securely enough to remove and replace the front wheel ones without dropping them behind the Ford wheel covers.  So I was anxious to get the pass-thru type to eliminate that problem.

I'm thankful that you clarified the issue before I foolishly ordered a new set.

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Re: Weight and Tire Pressure, Good News
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2015, 07:37:33 pm »
Tire pressure should be checked cold, i.e. in the morning before driving.  Letting out air during a trip due to heat of road friction could over deflate the tire.  Better to kick the tires or slap with a wood dowel to verify inflation and feel the tires for excessive heat upon rest stops.

You're doing it backwards.  The lower the pressure...tthe more the tire flexes....which generates more heat...which carried to the extreme will cause the tire to fail.

You also get better gas mileage with higher inflation as long as you do not exceed the max COLD pressure.   Tire pressure when hit WILL be above max cold pressure.   That is normal.   But, yes, gives a harsher ride.
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Re: Weight and Tire Pressure, Good News
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2015, 04:12:41 pm »
I have pressure pro unit I had with my class A. Do they work OK just placing them on the rear extenders?

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Re: Weight and Tire Pressure, Good News
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2015, 09:01:48 pm »
I have pressure pro unit I had with my class A. Do they work OK just placing them on the rear extenders?

The Pressure Pro sensors that we are using now were originally used on our 37' class A.  They work exactly the same on both RVs.  

We use a full set of ten sensors including the four on our CR-V towed car.  I want the sensors for the toad as much as for the PC and am always as concerned about the pressure in the front tires of the PC as on the rear tires.  As Mike has posted earlier, using the sensors on the front tires is a little more difficult due to the Ford wheel covers, but it can usually be done fairly easily by being careful not to drop the sensor inside the wheel covers (even then, it's become easier to pull off and replace those covers with a little more practice).

But, I think you could use sensors on the rear tires only if you choose to do that.  The installation procedure for the Pressure Pro sensors lets me choose which tires that will get a sensor attached.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
« Last Edit: March 29, 2015, 09:07:49 pm by Bruce and Sharon »

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Re: Weight and Tire Pressure, Good News
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2015, 09:18:03 pm »
Bruce knows best, as he has the product.  In general, the rear tires have a ton of room for sensors of any variety.  The issues with any sensor systems might be:

- Clearance of the front tire wheel covers.
- Ability to report temperature and pressure
- Ability to report/alarm instantaneous pressure loss in any tire
- Ability to monitor at least ten tires (6 on the PC and 4 on the toad)
- Range (in feet) of each sensor to the base station at the cab

   - Mike


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Re: Weight and Tire Pressure, Good News
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2015, 09:51:57 pm »
Thanks for the information. I was concerned they might be a problem on the extenders with balance.This is a great forum.

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