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Tarnold

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Roof
« on: December 18, 2019, 01:12:26 pm »
Finally got connected with Keith at PC about a roof question.  I had brought this subject up on the forum about another unit that I was looking at.  On my unit while examine the roof, notice that the FRP was loose on both sides, front to rear just inboard of the arc where it bends down to the drip rail.  When I pressed it down with my hand it felt sticky but would raise back up.  Now we’re talking about 3/16-1/8”.  Per Keith this is normal, and they do not glue except around the front/rear cap and along the edge.  Therefore allowing it to float.  Guess I’ll buy that for now.

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Re: Roof
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2019, 03:16:34 pm »
This is how my 2010 2551 is and I was assured when I asked that this is how it is, not to worry. I avoid walking that close to the edge anyway.
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Engineerlt

Re: Roof
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2019, 03:43:40 pm »
Hello
My 2017 2552 is also the same way.

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Ron Dittmer

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Re: Roof
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2019, 07:02:20 pm »
Same here with my 2007 2350.  12.5 years ago, I did not have a good feeling when I first noticed it.  I figured making it right would be worse than leaving it alone.  I later learned it is normal.  12.5 years later and the roof remains unchanged.  So sleep well because all is well.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2019, 07:10:36 pm by Ron Dittmer »
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Re: Roof
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2019, 04:51:15 pm »
I have a Phoenix 3100, 2015 I first noticed my fiberglass roof lifting below the crown and next to the rail (passenger side ) along the length of the coach this past summer it had been flat and glued down prior to this.  I also owned a 2552 prior to this and the fiberglass roof did not raise so I think this is a new issue and in my opinion not normal and qualifies as a manufacturing defect. The contact cement, used as the glue, is not being applied properly (they use a spray on technique) and this area of the coach is not receiving a proper cover of the adhesive, there fore the bubble.
My concern is over time this will crack and of course leak, a new roof replacement would be a prohibitive expense a drill and fill the void with a suitable caulking compound  might be a practical alternative. 
I have brought this to the attention of the factory and will be following up with them to get this resolved.  This is not a normal condition this is a manufacturing defect the factory needs to resolve.
Yes fiberglass is an extremely durable but it will over time become brittle and crack when stressed


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Re: Roof
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2019, 05:39:11 pm »
I have a Phoenix 3100, 2015 I first noticed my fiberglass roof lifting below the crown and next to the rail (passenger side ) along the length of the coach this past summer it had been flat and glued down prior to this.  I also owned a 2552 prior to this and the fiberglass roof did not raise so I think this is a new issue and in my opinion not normal and qualifies as a manufacturing defect. The contact cement, used as the glue, is not being applied properly (they use a spray on technique) and this area of the coach is not receiving a proper cover of the adhesive, there fore the bubble.
My concern is over time this will crack and of course leak, a new roof replacement would be a prohibitive expense a drill and fill the void with a suitable caulking compound  might be a practical alternative. 
I have brought this to the attention of the factory and will be following up with them to get this resolved.  This is not a normal condition this is a manufacturing defect the factory needs to resolve.
Yes fiberglass is an extremely durable but it will over time become brittle and crack when stressed



I can't speak for the factory, but I believe you are going to be chasing your tail.  Your vehicle is at least 4 years old and well beyond any PC warranty.

I could certainly be wrong, but I would be amazed if the factory will fix the problem (if it is a problem) under warranty.
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Re: Roof
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2019, 06:05:31 pm »
I traveled to fla. to look at a 2700.  Took me about 20 minutes looking at it to turn around and come back home.  Among many other flaws, On the back, near the ladder was a bubble about 2” high and about 18’ in diameter.

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Re: Roof
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2019, 08:08:56 pm »
I purchased a 2005 2350 that sat out in the Texas sun all of it's life. I got it at a very reasonable price because the exterior fiberglass was never taken care of properly and was completely oxidized. All the plastic pieces on the roof and exterior walls were so brittle that they would crack if any pressure was applied. It took me several months to buff, polish and wax the exterior walls and replace EVERY exterior plastic piece. That includes lights, trim, skylights, covers, gutter spouts, window/door gaskets, power receptacles and redo all the caulking. I also had to remove/replace the vinyl graphics that had cracked.

The one thing that was in perfect shape and required no maintenance was the fiberglass roof. It was in perfect shape and easily maintained its strength while replacing every plastic piece that was screwed/caulked to it. The roof didn't show any of the oxidation effects that the exterior side walls did. I simply scrubbed it with a brush using with soap and water and it looks brand new.