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Bilstein Shocks
« on: July 22, 2016, 04:00:23 pm »
There has been many discussions on these Bilstein Shocks on the forum and recently visited my Camping World for other items.  I stopped by the service/parts desk and inquire about them and what they would cost for my 2010 2551 PC.  Total investment would be approximately be $450 for two rear shocks installed.   Need some input from the forum if anyone has had CW purchase from them and had them installed by them.  Is there anything else I need to know.  Motor home rides okay on nice flat roads but on washboard country roads it finds the bumps and all shakes.  Don't know what Phoenix Cruiser original shocks are used.
       I  am second owner and don't know past history of my PC.   Other than the shocks, Only thing I just found out is that the air filter was changed in 2009 and it was real dirty and will be changing it out this weekend.  Oil filter and oil was changed this April along with the oil in generator. So is it worth changing the shocks on the rear?
   Going to FMCA rally in Massachusetts beginning of August and hope all goes well. Any input is appreciated as always. (cheer)

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Re: Bilstein Shocks
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2016, 08:45:28 pm »
Frecklestweety...I am not a big fan of CW and find that they run high from the price perspective but to be honest I do not think $450 is out of line.  If you have the dollars I would invest in front shocks as well, the weight on the front end of the E-450 takes its toll on the front end.  I might suggest you all so check all other fluid change schedules....I just changed all of my fluids on my 2012...... transmission, radiator, and rear end simply because of the time elapsed and  not mileage (14,000). My vehicle sits out all winter so temperature change causes moisture build up and lubricant fatigue.  best of luck
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Re: Bilstein Shocks
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2016, 08:57:06 pm »
Frecklestweety

We had our rear shocks replaced by our local CW on our 2008 2350.  At the time they were running a special on the installation, it was buy two shocks and get installation free on one of them, it was a very good price.  We were very pleased with the work that our local CW did purchasing and installing the Bilstein shocks.

On our 2012 2551 we had all four shocks replaced by a local frame shop.  The front shocks (especially the front passenger shock) were in need of replacement at about 22,500 mileage. 

We were very pleased with the ride on both vehicles after the shocks were changed.
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Re: Bilstein Shocks
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2016, 07:30:20 am »
    One of the first things I do when I get a new motorhome is to have Bilstein HD shocks installed on all four corners. I order them from eshock.com and take them to my local truck and tire shop (Rice Tire) in Frederick, Md. For HD shocks eshock wants $89 each or all four for $356. Comfort are $83 each or $332 for all four. Rice charges me about $25 each or $100 for all four to install them. I am getting all four for what CW wants for two.

    You might want to call where you get your tires and ask them what they charge to install shocks if you bring them in and what they want for them if they get them for you.

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Re: Bilstein Shocks
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2016, 02:09:33 pm »
Hi freeklestweety,

I completely agree with Tom Hanlon.  If you buy the shocks yourself from the cheapest supplier you find, and have them installed locally, you will save yourself a pile of money.  I also agree you would benefit so much more by replacing all 4 shocks, not just the two rears.

One other suggestion.  If you are okay with spending a lot more money, consider the Koni-FSD shocks.  They have a patented internal valve not found in any other shock absorber.  The benefit is that the shock is soft for minor road flaws, but immediately becomes heavy duty when conditions call for it.  The patented valve is simple & reliable, not complex or susceptible to issues.  It is inside the shock and works off the severity of sudden axle movement.  I understand that it helps a lot to address the jolting from expansion joints in the pavement.  I don't have Koni-FSD shocks because back in 2007 when I had our suspension issues addressed, they were not available for the E350/E450, just for larger truck chassis rigs and huge buses.  About 3 years ago Koni started producing them for the E-Series chassis.  The technology has been around for a long time.  It is proven technology.  When it is time to replace our Heavy Duty Koni shocks, I am buying the Koni-FSDs which are nearly the same cost as a new set of tires.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2016, 02:11:53 pm by ron.dittmer »
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Re: Bilstein Shocks
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2016, 09:27:38 pm »
    One of the first things I do when I get a new motorhome is to have Bilstein HD shocks installed on all four corners. I order them from eshock.com and take them to my local truck and tire shop (Rice Tire) in Frederick, Md. For HD shocks eshock wants $89 each or all four for $356. Comfort are $83 each or $332 for all four. Rice charges me about $25 each or $100 for all four to install them. I am getting all four for what CW wants for two.

    You might want to call where you get your tires and ask them what they charge to install shocks if you bring them in and what they want for them if they get them for you.
thanks for the inpu it . I think I will buy them and have my local service  install them.

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Re: Bilstein Shocks
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2016, 09:14:29 am »
Make sure you have someone lined up to do the installation before you order the shocks.  Not all service locations will install customer provided parts.  It has become more common in recent years but it is still not a universal policy. 

Barry
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Re: Bilstein Shocks
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2016, 09:19:39 am »
Good point, Barry. My suggestion if that is true in your area, is to have the internet quote on hand (printed out, bookmarked on your phone, whatever) and ask the tech to match the price for the parts. Make sure you already have the itemized quote so they don't just load the cost onto the service side of the work. Some places will "match price" with other suppliers. It's always worth a chance to ask.
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Re: Bilstein Shocks
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2016, 12:35:21 pm »
I went with Koni FSD shocks. What I would like to do is get two like units, one with Bilsreins about
ND one with Konis , and have a "ride off"  Wonder if you could tell any difference.  (WH)

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Re: Bilstein Shocks
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2016, 04:49:21 pm »
Make sure you have someone lined up to do the installation before you order the shocks.  Not all service locations will install customer provided parts.  It has become more common in recent years but it is still not a universal policy. 

Barry

I have already asked my local service station some time ago about installing shocks on MH and he said I'll put on any shocks you bring in.  They have worked on my MH before but will ask again as to how much he would charge to install them.    Now I know what shocks to buy.  Not sure when but will look into soon. Thanks for the input.

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Re: Bilstein Shocks
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2016, 12:36:03 pm »
I went with Koni FSD shocks. What I would like to do is get two like units, one with Bilsreins about
AND one with Konis , and have a "ride off"  Wonder if you could tell any difference.  (WH)
That would be so cool.

I have the other Koni RV shocks, the red ones that adjust from soft to heavy duty.  Ours are set to "Heavy Duty".  I've evaluated our suspension stiffness when Irene is driving on the interstate highway.  I've laid flat on my back on the floor with my head right over the rear axle and "feel" the road.  Doing that, I feel every little road imperfection.  I considered adjusting the shocks to an intermediate setting for a softer ride, but my local RV suspension shop did not recommend it because it would sacrifice handling which is my main beef to begin with.  Our shocks work great for handling, but that adds stiffness which means a harsher ride.  The Koni-FSDs seem to offer a solution for that.

Like you say ron-n-toni, it would be great to perform such an experiment on identical rigs with identical tire inflation and compare.
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Re: Bilstein Shocks
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2016, 04:22:52 pm »
I found best price for HD Bilstein at Tire Rack.
$83 each, free shipping, no tax.

A local auto repair will install them for $160, so my total out the door price for 4 shocks installed is $492.

I can't find the installed price at CW but if installation is free, the cost is $548 plus tax



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