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Satellite
« on: July 05, 2016, 10:07:00 pm »
I just purchased the new winegard  playmaker portable satellite dish.. Does anyone know if I can connect cable into the cable connection or do I have to bring it through window to connect directly to receiver box?

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Re: Satellite
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2016, 09:20:19 am »
The outdoor cable tv connector won't work with satellite.  Satellite coax and connectors are not the same as cable/tv coax and connectors. Satellite uses high frequency cable (RG6). Satellite requires power to pass through the connector and coax, which is why even standard cable TV splitters won't generally work with satellite. i think the biggest problem is that the PC (and other Motorhome configurations)cable and tv coax runs through the amplifier which messes with satellite.  Here is an online resource :  http://www.thesatelliteshop.net/

A temporary solution is running the satellite coax through a window (using a FLAT  satellite coax)

Permanent solution might be to have a separate satellite pass-thru coax connector installed in an exterior wall, close to the television, and then run a short piece of coax to the tv.

   - Mike

This is all assuming that Kermit hasn't started 'prepping' the new PC's for satellite (i.e.: running satellite coax cable inside the rig, but burying it in a wall or ceiling somewhere with or without a connector)

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Re: Satellite
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2016, 11:28:50 am »
We had our new unit, scheduled for Aug 15th, wired with a separate cable for satellite hookup.  Otherwise as mentioned you have to run it through the window.  I will have two connections at the outside box, one for cable, one for satellite.
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Re: Satellite
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2016, 04:23:59 pm »
I had the same problem and could not receive Direct TV using existing wiring on our 2008 or 2012 PC.

I contacted technical support for both ANTENNATEK and WINEGARD about this situation.  Both companies provided the same explanation, a DC filter is installed within the wall plate to block any DC voltage on the cable input.  The satellite dish requires approximately 12 - 18VDC to power the LNB portion of the dish.  This voltage is supplied by the satellite receiver and is required to pass through all cables and any wall plates that are installed.  This filtering action is what prevents the satellite dish/receiver from working.

Wall plates that are typically installed in the RV industry are ANTENNATEK Part Number 065840 or WINEGARD Part Number RV7012.  These wall plates provide the option of watching TV from the RV TV antenna or from an external cable source but not from a satellite provider.  

The existing OUTSIDE CABLE JACK can be used to connect to either a satellite dish or to the park cable to the coach if a Diplexer is installed before the existing TV amplifier wall plate. This this does not require any holes in the exterior PC walls.

See Attached Diagram

The Diplexer is a passive device that combines or separates satellite and cable signals.  The Diplexer will pass DC voltage on the satellite port but will block the DC voltage on the cable port.  The cable port of the Diplexer is connected to the CABLE IN port of the existing amplifier wall plate and the satellite port of the Diplexer is connect to the TV connection on the new wall plate.  The satellite receiver is then connected to the new wall plate.

Barry
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Re: Satellite
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2016, 04:41:21 pm »
Barry's soultion is the "best" for something permanent.  The only time we use sat is when we to to northern NM for about 6 weeks in the summer.  I found that one way to use the outside connection is to loosen the screws on the connection box inside the compartment and then determine which cable comes from the outside connection.  Run this to the cable box and you can get reception.  I also sent the output from the cable box to a duplex (?) [you know...one of those one-in-two-out things] connector with the cables connected to the two sets.  Obviously, we only used one cable box so the same thing goes to each set.  It works in a pinch, but as I said, Barry has the BEST solution.

Richard