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General Discussion / Ford Econoline bye-bye?

« on: September 03, 2012, 12:28:12 pm »

OK, fellows:  educate me...  I stumbled across an article buried deep on my homepage this morning, now can't find it -- but found this one on USA today regarding Ford's putting the Econoline van into the archives:  http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2011/12/ford-killing-off-the-econoline-van-/1#.UETWdpb8mSo  On edit, here is the original article I found:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Teilintegriertes_WoMo.jpg

So, does this mean that our E350's & E450's are about to become dinosaurs now or in the near future -- and the European Transit (sprinter like for sure!) will now be the basis for future PC's and other B+/C's by all manufacturers in the non-Sprinter vehicles?  I found this photo of a European motorhome built on it   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Teilintegriertes_WoMo.jpg.  They talk about 25% better fuel economy, but also about it being lighter and less powerful than the E-series.  

Did y'all already know all this and what do you think this will mean as far as this European version replacing the E-series?  Any idea if it is going to be only diesel or also gas?  

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General Discussion / 2350 or ? What did you choose and why?

« on: July 29, 2012, 10:36:19 am »

As a "newbie" on this forum, I am obviously trying to gather information for what I hope to be my impending purchase of a PC -- I've read lots of posts from those of you who have purchased multiple units from Phoenix, attesting to the quality that you found, but also raising the question of "getting it right" the first time.  I would really like to know from your experiences what you chose, why, what you wish you had chosen, and (for some of you) why you traded up/down...

As somebody considering moving on up from a B into a B+, I really do want to get it right the first time.  I know that none of you can choose for me, but before I head out to Elkhart for my look-see, I was hoping to get the benefit of your experiences and choices.  I'd like to be as smart as Ron and his wife were in '07 choosing their 2350 and hoping to stay with it for the long run as they did both times. 

As 2 sisters traveling with dogs -- obviously we're not going to be as handy as some of you guys who can make mods and repairs to your rigs, so I'd like to make the best decision I can right up front.  We are concentrating on the 2350 from the information on the PC website.  One sister (& her spoiled dog!) can sleep in the back, and one (hopefully) on the couch bed. 

Questions:

• Anybody with experience sleeping on the couch (whoops! no sad stories about being in the dog house!)    Comments on comfort? 
• Those of you with dogs, anything you like/don't like about the setup in your rig?   
• As a single and not-so-handy-woman, I'm worried about structural integrity and maintenance of a slide, but I also realize that many of you have chosen them.  My current thinking is to opt for the less room for living (in spite of traveling with dogs) and go for the presumably sounder, more weather-proof slide-less version.  Your thoughts?

Thanks again.  I tried to search out answers to these questions before posting, but would appreciate your current thoughts on what you own and why...