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General Discussion / Re: Waste Discharge Hose Replacement
« on: April 16, 2025, 04:14:16 pm »
I AM ALL MIXED UP WITH MYSELF.  Please disregard my previous posts on this subject.

I just looked in my RV spart parts cabinet and looked at my original waste gate that I had removed, cleaned-up, and kept as an backup.  It is THIS ONE with the non-square anglulars.

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General Discussion / Re: Waste Discharge Hose Replacement
« on: April 16, 2025, 08:13:36 am »
Interesting.  Thanks Don for sharing that.

So the point to other PC owners is to first crawl under your PC and take a look at your waste gates.  The two variations might be interchangable, but why chance it.  Order the exact match.

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General Discussion / Re: Macerator pump will not turn on
« on: April 16, 2025, 08:08:17 am »
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Ditto on the 2007 Phoenix Cruiser we owned earlier.   The red/black relationship was reversed.  Of course,  I didn't realize that until after methodically lacing the wire connections, sealing the harness, securing the wiring corridor and reinstalling the motor only to have the test run reveal the motor ran backwards.
That was my experience as well.

I got the job completed, looking pretty, but my test was a total failure.  Everything working, lots of noise, but nothing coming out the discharge hose.  It took me some time to figure out that the motor was running backwards.

orange/red wire = ground
black wire = power

I wonder if the "color flip" is only on the 2007 model year.

When changing macerators, make note of this possibility on your rig.  Pay attention when disconnecting the old pump wiring colors.  In my 2007, it's red-to-black, black-to-red.

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General Discussion / Re: Macerator pump will not turn on
« on: April 15, 2025, 10:36:10 am »
Our first macerator, the original one, one of the assembling long brass bolts broke and fell away, somehow had lodged itself on the blades (bending one badly) so when trying to free the motor with a screwdriver, it didn't budge.
CLICK HERE FOR MANY PICTURES OF THE REPLACEMENT WHICH INCLUDES THE ORIGINAL WITH BROKEN BOLT.

Ron - slightly off topic, but do you have pictures of how your pump is mounted on the coach?  I want to compare against my Jabsco pump installation.  Also, how is the pump attached to the waste line if the brass bolts were concealed.

On topic - one of the best ways to check on a motor not running is to use a multimeter and measure the voltage at the pump when the switch is on.  That would be the start of tracing things.
In reverse order.....

Follow the red and black wires from the macerator.  As shown, about 12" or so, there are single pin connectors to unplug the macerator and check voltage.  In our rig macerator wiring, the colors are backwards.


About our first generation macerator.  It mounts to the motorhome waste piping, nearly identical to this, but our older design has a strap/hose-clamp to attach the macerator on to the spade-adapter.  It does NOT bolt on like this one.

Our 1st-generation is not as good as current-day because the bolts today are on the outside as seen here.  Given the age of our rig, I don't like disturbing more than necessary.  I also found it very easy to replace the pump and be done.

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General Discussion / Re: Macerator pump will not turn on
« on: April 14, 2025, 11:19:47 pm »
Our first macerator, the original one, one of the assembling long brass bolts broke and fell away, somehow had lodged itself on the blades (bending one badly) so when trying to free the motor with a screwdriver, it didn't budge.
CLICK HERE FOR MANY PICTURES OF THE REPLACEMENT WHICH INCLUDES THE ORIGINAL WITH BROKEN BOLT.

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General Discussion / Re: Anyone ever remove decals from your rv?
« on: April 13, 2025, 06:20:05 pm »
Plastic razor blades and mineral spirits???

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General Discussion / Re: Towel Rack ideas for 2350
« on: April 13, 2025, 06:17:22 pm »
My wife rolls and stores our big puffy bath towels on this mounted above the toilet.  They wedge in tightly to stay in place.  We drape wet towels over the shower door.  When dry, they go back here.  Unfortunately I don't have a proper illustrating picture.


We hang our washcloths on the gold hooks.  Tooth brushes hang, and tooth paste & other items go in the tray.


Our kitchen towel rack applies to many other PC models.









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General Discussion / Re: Waste Discharge Hose Replacement
« on: April 13, 2025, 06:02:57 pm »
Just FYI: My deformed gasket did not leak to the outside.  It was deformed on the inside, causing the drag on valve movement.

That one on amazon is not perfectly square.  It has those indents, not sure if it is the best choice, but maybe it will work just fine.

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General Discussion / Re: Waste Discharge Hose Replacement
« on: April 12, 2025, 10:34:48 pm »
Taildragger,

I went through the same thought process.  Most waste gates (valves) for sale, include a flange on each side like this.  In-fact, the one I bought, included them.  I simply reused the flanges attached to the Phoenix plumbing.  Remove the 4 small bolts and the new one is as previously shown.  The old valve slips out, the new one slips in.

When selecting a valve, I advise to pick one with the same outer shape just to avoid potential issues.  The two shapes might be interchngable, but why chance it?  The picture above has angled indentions.  The one below does not.


Replacing the round rubber gaskets is very easy.  If you are on a tight budget, you could clean up and reuse the original valve.  Just replace the 2 gaskets.  I cleaned up my original valve and keep it as a spare.  I also bought an extra pair of gaskets to have on-hand for a quick repair.  It seems that I always discover a little problem right before we are ready to leave home.  I am a man of many spare parts.

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General Discussion / Re: Waste Discharge Block Valve Issues?
« on: April 11, 2025, 08:05:40 am »
In another issue related to the SANICON Systems remote control feature, I notice that on my unit, the Waste Tank Block Valves audibly strain the motors during the open/close process.  Concerned the gate valve operation is in excess of the motor load rating, I have tried lubricating the valves.   And as part of the effort to free their movement, I exercised the valves manually.  The effort included application of kinetic energy (hammer) and resulted in little change, if any.

Replacement of the block valves is the obvious next step.  I plan on accomplishing that later this month when I return to the unit for a planned cross-country trip.  Illustrated as an easy process in Online Videos, I wonder if the "sticky" operation is indicating more severe problems.

I wonder which valve model is the proper replacement.  I would like to pre order and have the parts available immediately upon my arrival
This is a change of subject, from macerator hoses, to tank valves, but here I go.

Our 2007 2350 is the year Phoenix introduced a macerator system into all PCs, the original Sanicon.  I call it "First Generation Sanicon."  It has electro-mechanical valve controls.

As the years passed, I noticed the black tank valve straining worse and worse.  Lubicating it from the outside never made a difference.  4 years ago, it got to the point of concern so I took apart the black waste line to replace the valve which revealed the problem.  The round rubber gasket that the waste gate passes adjacent to, was deformed.  I could have cleaned the valve and replace the deformed gasket, but I already had in-hand, a new valve of another brand.  The installation went without issues, and the results solved the original problem.

I cannot speak for newer model years, but our 2007 Sanicon system uses generic manual waste gates (valves) like this.  The electro-mechanical mechanism around it attaches to the "T" handle.


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General Discussion / Re: Waste Discharge Hose Replacement
« on: April 06, 2025, 06:26:03 pm »
Leaks!  The discharge hose survives ground abrasions, expansion/contraction flexing, and exposure to the vaguries of time.  I wonder how much pressure it can withstand from being walked upon ,or driven over, before suffering damage. 

I think the Hairline Crack in the mascerater housing that I found after purchasing my Cruiser used, was probably caused by impoper winterization and the
Undrained and untreated liquid collection there freezing.

Not everyone thinks to include the drain hose and maceration system when flooding the RV utilities with antifreeze in readiness for winter
2o2

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General Discussion / Re: Waste Discharge Hose Replacement
« on: April 05, 2025, 01:49:43 pm »
Maybe this will apply in your case.

Our original Sanicon hose is now 18 years old.  One pin hole was real close to the macerator so I shorted the hose by that much to eliminate the pin hole.  Another pin hole developed mid-point.  I used a dab of a sealant (don't recall the type) which has held up for decades to-date.

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I paid Diamond Shield, based in Elkhart, to remove it on my 2013 3100 and then reapply a new Diamond Shield with a warranty. I'm a DIYer and researched the removal process.  After spending several hours on the recommended removal process I quickly found that I would likely do more harm to the paint job than the videos discussed.  They had all the old, molded Diamond Shield off and reinstalled a new coating in just one morning.  That was 3 years ago and I had no issues since then.
I am curious.  What did it cost you?

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I am curious....

Is that broken duct inside a slideout, or adjacent to one?  If so, it could have failed from the movement of sliding in and out.

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Adventure Anywhere / Re: Dreaming of Alaska Road Trip
« on: March 28, 2025, 11:49:19 pm »
I really like the idea of making Canada the 51st US state.  If only Canadians were all on-board with the idea.  That would take care of much including that.

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