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General Discussion / Re: 2023 2552 Heater Not Igniting

« on: May 25, 2025, 10:05:37 pm »

No comment on the fuse location, but confirm that you are using the correct thermostat.  The one in the front controls the furnace.  We tried several times and thought something was wrong but realized the one in the back only controls the rear AC.

Thank you for the reply . Yes it is the one in the back. Not sure where to go from here on this issue . The thermostat does come on but that is all it does. I have done a reset 3x as directed however still nothing . Not even a click , nada :(  But I will not give up so keep the ideas coming Gents

To be clear, you are trying to use the thermostat in the back, correct?  That is how I read your reply.  If so, that is the WRONG thermostat for the furnace.  The furnace is controlled by the front thermostat.

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General Discussion / Re: 2023 2552 Heater Not Igniting

« on: May 23, 2025, 08:44:00 pm »

No comment on the fuse location, but confirm that you are using the correct thermostat.  The one in the front controls the furnace.  We tried several times and thought something was wrong but realized the one in the back only controls the rear AC.

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General Discussion / Re: Shurflow Pentair3100 macerator pump.

« on: May 19, 2025, 01:33:53 pm »

Pictures would help a lot.  Also, can you confirm your pump model?  We have a 2552 that is just one year older and ours is a Jabsco pump but looks similar to the Pentair.

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General Discussion / Re: Toad Question - 2552 Pulling a Chevy Colorado/GMC Canyon

« on: May 18, 2025, 01:38:45 pm »

Hi, I was towing a 4 door wrangler (about 4600 lbs loaded) up until this year when I bought a 2024 Canyon Denali (about 4800lbs empty).
I do carry a bit of stuff in the bed so I am probably a bit over 5K lbs but have not weighed it yet.
It tows great!
At the same time as the toad upgrade I also added the 5 star tuner to my 2020, 2552.
With that I would say it pulls on hills as well or better than it did with the lighter Wrangler.
I have not had any issues with hills or braking with my Demco Sit in Play braking and Roadmaster Nighthawk Tow bar and base plates. (fun to install  )
The 5 star also made a big improvement in the shifting.

Here's a question for you:
When I found my hitch name plate it says it is rated for 5000lbs with a 500lb tongue weight -OR- 6000LB weight distributing.

Am I crazy to think that if it is good for 6000lbs weight distributing that it should also be good for 6000 lbs flat tow with zero tongue weight?
Thinking the Push/Pull forces would be similar whether Weight Distributed or Flat Towing.

Either way, I feel safe because I know there is a margin of safety built into those ratings and I am not over by much if at all.
It tows very well and I love the truck.

Thanks for the feedback.  I put the Demco baseplates on last weekend.  Not too bad.  I still need to connect the secondary safety cables to the baseplates, but otherwise that is done.  Still need to install the braking system.  Next weekend we're taking our old toad (Mini Cooper) to TN to hand over to a family member who could use a second vehicle.

For your question, I would say you are fine tipping the scales at 5k or slightly over.  The loading on the hitch flat towing is less than pulling a trailer as the tongue weight is less as well as any bending moment on the hitch.  The chassis itself is rated at 7500 lb towing, but with the 2552, the frame has been extended beyond the end of the E450 stock frame and I think that is the driver for reducing the hitch capacity to 5k.  The extended frame is noticeably smaller than the stock Ford frame.

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General Discussion / Re: Cab Door Gaskets

« on: May 05, 2025, 07:56:19 pm »

Thanks for feedback.  It was probably presumptuous of me to assume it was too long.  It is definitely worth a try. 

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General Discussion / Cab Door Gaskets

« on: May 04, 2025, 01:23:21 pm »

Question for folks.  How are your cab door gaskets fitted?  Are they just pressed in on the sheetmetal 'flange' or is  some adhesive used? 

I ask because ours are too long and no matter how much you press them on the flange some part pops up.  It has been this way since new.  I think they are too long and I was intending to separate them at the existing seam and shorten them to get it to fit better.  No adhesive is on there now and I wouldn't think any would be needed if they were the right length.  Just wanted to check before I adjust them.

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General Discussion / Re: Macerator pump will not turn on

« on: April 16, 2025, 01:08:32 pm »

Thanks for the pictures Ron.  I think that ours mounts similarly with the tabs on the pump that lock onto posts on the pipe with a 10 deg turn of the pump body.  The Jabsco doesn't show those tabs as even an option, so it helps to see yours.

With regards to pump rotation, I'd recommend that folks connect the wiring and have someone bump the power to the pump to check rotation.  Just watch your fingers.  The impeller should rotate towards the discharge port.  Easier to check rotation before sealing it up.  But as Ron found out, the wrong rotation won't hurt anything; it just won't pump anything.

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General Discussion / Re: Macerator pump will not turn on

« on: April 15, 2025, 09:21:55 am »

Our first macerator, the original one, one of the assembling long brass bolts broke and fell away, somehow had lodged itself on the blades (bending one badly) so when trying to free the motor with a screwdriver, it didn't budge.
CLICK HERE FOR MANY PICTURES OF THE REPLACEMENT WHICH INCLUDES THE ORIGINAL WITH BROKEN BOLT.

Ron - slightly off topic, but do you have pictures of how your pump is mounted on the coach?  I want to compare against my Jabsco pump installation.  Also, how is the pump attached to the waste line if the brass bolts were concealed.

On topic - one of the best ways to check on a motor not running is to use a multimeter and measure the voltage at the pump when the switch is on.  That would be the start of tracing things.

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General Discussion / Re: Waste Discharge Hose Replacement

« on: April 12, 2025, 10:07:35 pm »

Good discussion.  Speaking of valves, I'll try to get a snapshot of the existing to compare against earlier Phoenix models.  Based on the changes I've already discovered in the waste system from earlier models, I might as well see if the valves are the same.

On the topic of waste hoses, I replaced the hose today with a Sanicon 70424 and it is an exact replacement.  No leaks and very simple to replace.  Based on the fact that ours didn't last a full 2 years, I'm planning on replacing right before each season's de-winterization.  It may be overkill but I'm really not interested in taking a poop shower.  My luck it would happen at the most in opportune moment.

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General Discussion / Re: Waste Discharge Hose Replacement

« on: April 06, 2025, 08:11:36 pm »

Further Update - Mainly updating to help other owners of newer versions that will eventually run into these issues.

Confirmed the pump is a Jabsco model 18590-2592 which is 12V and pulls 16 amps.  I'm going to reach out to Phoenix and see if they can tell me what they did on the suction side of the pump to connect to the waste system.  The pump suction doesn't look like the standard Jabsco pump.  Not that it is an issue now but will be when I want to service or replace the pump.

We are fairly certain they used a Sanicon Twist-on 1" retractable hose (7' normal length and expands up to 21') model 70424.  We've ordered one and will confirm when I replace it.  Odd that this hose is used because Thetford has discontinued the Twist-on pump, so who knows how long the hose will be available.

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General Discussion / Re: Waste Discharge Hose Replacement

« on: April 05, 2025, 01:09:51 pm »

Update.  For our 2022 2552, we do NOT have the Sanicon pump.  It is a Jabsco macerating pump.  It is some variation of a 18590 pump.  The current model is the 18590-2092 but I think ours may be a previous model number.  I was a dummy and didn't get a good picture of the label.  I'll get a better picture and post it in this thread as well as documenting what hose I end up getting.

The overall picture of our pump installation is below.

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General Discussion / Waste Discharge Hose Replacement

« on: April 04, 2025, 05:09:07 pm »

Ours didn't last much more than 2 seasons.  At least one if not two pin hole leaks.  Oh and there are not in a location where the ground would have caused a weak spot through abrasion.

I need to go back to the RV tomorrow and get the pump model number.  However, I wanted to ask if folks have used the Thetford 97521 or 70424 hoses.  They look similar but one is for the Turbo 700 and the other is for the Twiston.  Like I said I'll get our pump model number, but looking at the Thetford website, our pump doesn't quite look like either.

Oh let this serve as a reminder for folks...make sure you have an emergency gravity waste line.  We have a collapsible Rhino the stores nicely in a plastic container that fits in one of the storage bays.

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General Discussion / Toad Question - 2552 Pulling a Chevy Colorado/GMC Canyon

« on: March 15, 2025, 11:49:18 am »

Question for folks with the 2552 and pulling a toad between 4500 and 5000 lb.  What has been your experience handling and stopping?  And what are you pulling?  A 4 door Wrangler or Colorado/Canyon should all fall into this range.

We currently pull a nice light weight Mini Cooper base model, but with potential long term back issues I'm looking at changing to something with an automatic (easier to drive with a hurt back and the wife can't drive a manual).  Slightly off topic, a toad that is a truck would allow me to sell my M416 trailer that I use from time to time...one that you have to pick up the tongue to get it hitched.  I was looking at the Ford Maverick, but Ford has been having issues with their 4 down capable rigs that I'm just not interested any more.  My Bronco would be ideal but who knows if the transmission would be a pile of parts when I get to my destination.  Or Ford backtracking on the Lincoln Corsair was 4 down not they say not it isn't.

For braking I currently use the NSA ReadyBrake, but I'll probably switch to some type of in cab either portable or permanently mounted system.  With the extra weight, I'm thinking of having a system with more control over the toad brakes while in motion.

Thanks in advance and sorry for the long winded post.

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General Discussion / Re: How many Phoenix Cruisers are on the road?

« on: January 27, 2025, 04:53:26 pm »

We've only had ours for 2 seasons and I know we've seen one other.  It was close to home and was the other of two sold at our local dealer.  I look forward to seeing more over the years.

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General Discussion / Re: Godzilla Engine?

« on: January 20, 2025, 10:58:16 am »

We get about 9.5 mpg with a 2552 pulling a little Mini Cooper toad running on regular gas.  Without the toad, we could get closer to 10 mpg.  I cruise at 65 mph.

I really like the engine and the transmission combo (6-speed).  Good power across all rpms with a nice range of gears.  The extra sound insulation that comes with the Ford chassis that Phoenix uses combined with the V-8, you can carry on a normal conversation even when you are working the engine hard.  I do control the shifting for steep grades up and down.  I don't see any reason to run premium gas.  As mentioned above, the cost increase of the premium fuel won't lead to that much of an increase in mileage.