1
General Discussion / Re: 911 - Charger Death?
« on: January 07, 2025, 05:13:25 am »
Thanks folks!
Show Posts
This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.
2
General Discussion / Re: 911 - Charger Death?
« on: January 04, 2025, 02:28:09 pm »
This has been a great learning experience for me.
Note I did say that I've been full-time on these two flooded batteries. There's been zero storage time on them since they were new in 2019. I can't fault them in any case. I might could have used the one that checked in at 11.8 volts a while longer but I'd be worried about the thing all the time.
I wasn't aware AGM batteries could be purchased for $183, my ignorance there, although Donc13 uses GPL-4CT 6v AGM batteries which a quick Google come in around $400 each.
My understanding of this 12v system has risen a bit. I didn't think battery death would affect the rig while on shore power since it has a charger outputting 12v 24/7. Can someone explain why that is? If I have a constant 12v source why do I even need batteries in the circuit?
Note I did say that I've been full-time on these two flooded batteries. There's been zero storage time on them since they were new in 2019. I can't fault them in any case. I might could have used the one that checked in at 11.8 volts a while longer but I'd be worried about the thing all the time.
I wasn't aware AGM batteries could be purchased for $183, my ignorance there, although Donc13 uses GPL-4CT 6v AGM batteries which a quick Google come in around $400 each.
My understanding of this 12v system has risen a bit. I didn't think battery death would affect the rig while on shore power since it has a charger outputting 12v 24/7. Can someone explain why that is? If I have a constant 12v source why do I even need batteries in the circuit?
3
General Discussion / Re: 911 - Charger Death?
« on: January 03, 2025, 02:20:30 pm »
Bought the same model batteries. Installed.
The dead ones provided almost 5 years of full timer service. That's good enough for me and only $112 dollars each at Advanced Auto.
All is well.
Thanks for all the input!!!
The dead ones provided almost 5 years of full timer service. That's good enough for me and only $112 dollars each at Advanced Auto.
All is well.
Thanks for all the input!!!
4
General Discussion / Re: 911 - Charger Death?
« on: January 03, 2025, 10:21:29 am »
Parallel or Serial????
This is how the rig came wired.
This is how the rig came wired.
5
General Discussion / Re: 911 - Charger Death?
« on: January 03, 2025, 09:44:46 am »
Oky Dokey.
Volt meter applied to batteries while connected:
6.1v
Volt meter applied to each battery uninstalled:
11.8
1.0
I'm off to the battery store.
Pic of what's been in there and working since 2019 (yeah yeah I know
).
Volt meter applied to batteries while connected:
6.1v
Volt meter applied to each battery uninstalled:
11.8
1.0
I'm off to the battery store.
Pic of what's been in there and working since 2019 (yeah yeah I know
).
6
General Discussion / Re: 911 - Charger Death?
« on: January 03, 2025, 08:44:29 am »Take the negative cable off the batteries. Does the shore power now work normally? If so, one or both batteries are dead.
Shore power is working fine now. Only 12v systems are affected.
I use deep cycle. I'm not traveling much so not keen on the AGM expense.
These two are way over due for replacement so we'll see shortly if it's a battery issue.
7
General Discussion / Re: 911 - Charger Death?
« on: January 03, 2025, 08:41:21 am »Check the wiring near the metal connector to the battery posts. Years back ours had started to separate right at the connector/battery terminal clamp. It looked OK until you shifted it.
Thanks. Will check them carefully when I replace the batteries. They're well overdue any way.
8
General Discussion / Re: 911 - Charger Death?
« on: January 03, 2025, 07:22:07 am »
Additionally.
Had to reset the external battery charger I put on the batteries and it has two gauges on it. One is reporting the batteries are good and the other says there is no charge being accepted/applied.
I've never trusted the good/bad indicator but I've never seen a battery on charge not indicate 'some' level of charge by the second gauge.
Possible charging to batteries in parallel could cause that? I'll have to pull them to know if one is bad and one not.
Will know the answer to the battery issue if any in a couple of hours.
Had to reset the external battery charger I put on the batteries and it has two gauges on it. One is reporting the batteries are good and the other says there is no charge being accepted/applied.
I've never trusted the good/bad indicator but I've never seen a battery on charge not indicate 'some' level of charge by the second gauge.
Possible charging to batteries in parallel could cause that? I'll have to pull them to know if one is bad and one not.
Will know the answer to the battery issue if any in a couple of hours.
9
General Discussion / Re: How to make the screen door more visible
« on: January 03, 2025, 07:13:53 am »
Not sure how costly or involved it might be to change the screen material but they make white screen for screen doors (probably other colors in case you're into black lighting and other effects LOL). Not sure how much visibility that might deprive the humans. Would probably be the most professional looking option.
I've thought about this is many times and never get around to it. So far I've used the baby door barrier solution but it's a pita.
I've thought about this is many times and never get around to it. So far I've used the baby door barrier solution but it's a pita.
10
General Discussion / 911 - Charger Death?
« on: January 03, 2025, 07:06:12 am »
- All 120 volt equipment is working.
- Woke to a frigid rig this morning by the furnace fan coming on and sounding weird (pretty sure running on low voltage). I hit the thermo button and the light was dim but it did shut the fan off.
- Currently the thermo is still dim lit but nothing that needs it will work so no heat strip or furnace; brrrrr. I've got a 120v heater running the front with the divider curtain closed so we're warm and can cook breakfast and COFFEEEEEEE!! yay
- The (piece of crap MaxxFan) in the front was on too and definitely on low voltage. I had to pull the fuse to the front of the rig to shut it off as it ignored it's own power switch (something it's done since new).
- Some of the 12 volt lights would try to come on but those that will are dim.
- The batteries are old and need replacing. I put a battery charger on them on boost and that did raise the voltage some as more lights would come on but all are still dimmer than they should be.
- I haven't tested the voltage yet but it will just confirm something I already know.
- The inverter control panel isn't working. I checked it with no results but when I returned to it later it stopped when I pressed the power button.
- Recycling shore power had no effect.
- The 'use' button by the door has no effect. Note the red light is on and doesn't extinguish by pushing the button on/off as it should.
First task is I'll replace the batteries with known good or new and see if that helps or resolves the problem. The battery light/gauge behind the driver seat shows 50 percent but is dim.
Any clues folks??
- Woke to a frigid rig this morning by the furnace fan coming on and sounding weird (pretty sure running on low voltage). I hit the thermo button and the light was dim but it did shut the fan off.
- Currently the thermo is still dim lit but nothing that needs it will work so no heat strip or furnace; brrrrr. I've got a 120v heater running the front with the divider curtain closed so we're warm and can cook breakfast and COFFEEEEEEE!! yay
- The (piece of crap MaxxFan) in the front was on too and definitely on low voltage. I had to pull the fuse to the front of the rig to shut it off as it ignored it's own power switch (something it's done since new).
- Some of the 12 volt lights would try to come on but those that will are dim.
- The batteries are old and need replacing. I put a battery charger on them on boost and that did raise the voltage some as more lights would come on but all are still dimmer than they should be.
- I haven't tested the voltage yet but it will just confirm something I already know.
- The inverter control panel isn't working. I checked it with no results but when I returned to it later it stopped when I pressed the power button.
- Recycling shore power had no effect.
- The 'use' button by the door has no effect. Note the red light is on and doesn't extinguish by pushing the button on/off as it should.
First task is I'll replace the batteries with known good or new and see if that helps or resolves the problem. The battery light/gauge behind the driver seat shows 50 percent but is dim.
Any clues folks??
11
General Discussion / Phoenix Cruiser RV Couch : Free
« on: June 07, 2023, 06:48:40 am »
Couch from a 2011 Phoenix Cruiser 2551 (will fit other models).
Mint Condition.
I took this out when I bought the rig. It's been wrapped in plastic in storage.
It folds out into a bed (not motorized) and has two large drawers under the cushions.
The slideout it fits in has these dimensions: 30" deep, 55" wide.
It's an hour west of Charlotte NC.
Mint Condition.
I took this out when I bought the rig. It's been wrapped in plastic in storage.
It folds out into a bed (not motorized) and has two large drawers under the cushions.
The slideout it fits in has these dimensions: 30" deep, 55" wide.
It's an hour west of Charlotte NC.
12
General Discussion / Re: Black Tank Drain Valve Sticking
« on: January 07, 2023, 04:34:18 pm »My 2011 2552 has Barker Auto Draw 24130 actuators. If you look up this model number you'll find the new version of this actuator has the same model number but is NOT a direct replacement to the original. The new Auto Draw 24130 incorporates it's own valve; and it's not a bolt on/off unit; it's one piece and a glue fitting. If one doesn't want to have to modify the drain run you'll need the old version/style of Auto Draw 24130. The Barker Auto Draw 25070 is the direct equivalent of the old 24130 which does not incorporate a valve. Info is out of Barker's mouth.
The valve itself (a Bristol 3" Valve) and the Barker auto draw are two different things (at least on my 2015), the Barker mounts on the Bristol with the 2 "top" Valve bolts. The other 2 bolts go on the bottom of the valve.
Keep in mind, there is a rim on both sides of the valve that you need to loosen up the ABS lines to get the valve itself out. I just swapped both gray and black valves and to do so, I had to loosen up as much as I could the turbo macerator (mine is the first year they used the turbos) to be able to separate the valve from the plumbing.
The Bristol valve is LaSalle Bristol model 39240 Anonda 3" valve. $21 at Amazon.
You DA Man!
13
General Discussion / Re: Black Tank Drain Valve Sticking
« on: January 07, 2023, 08:36:58 am »
My 2011 2552 has Barker Auto Draw 24130 actuators. If you look up this model number you'll find the new version of this actuator has the same model number but is NOT a direct replacement to the original. The new Auto Draw 24130 incorporates it's own valve; and it's not a bolt on/off unit; it's one piece and a glue fitting. If one doesn't want to have to modify the drain run you'll need the old version/style of Auto Draw 24130. The Barker Auto Draw 25070 is the direct equivalent of the old 24130 which does not incorporate a valve. Info is out of Barker's mouth.
14
General Discussion / Re: Black Tank Drain Valve Sticking
« on: January 07, 2023, 08:25:52 am »
I can agree with adding a lubricant at some point but I think that's a delaying tactic if the sticking is caused buy a surface build up on the valve surfaces. I'd think it better to attack the build-up first and then start using a lubricant going forward.
Make sense or am I deluding myself?
I persistently use waste decomposition products. Have never tried lubricants though. I'll add it to my list.
Thanks Don.
Make sense or am I deluding myself?
I persistently use waste decomposition products. Have never tried lubricants though. I'll add it to my list.
Thanks Don.
15
General Discussion / Re: Black Tank Drain Valve Sticking
« on: January 05, 2023, 12:53:51 pm »
OK. I see that the valve isn't that difficult to replace. 4 bolts looks like and of course a nasty mess. YUCK 
